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my personal recomendation is to avoid this
most kicks can be executed well while keeping the hands up enough to at least reduce the likelihood of a punch landing on your melon while youre throwing the kick
the most effective "street" tactic used by the best "street" fighters is pretty much just to punch the crap out of you and keep punching no matter what until you stop
this is a good tactic
it works
it also means that in a self defense situation the first moments of contact will often be what you could call MUTUAL ENGAGEMENT
which is just like it sounds; youre engaging them and theure engaging you
the reasons for kicking are
reach and range
this means your legs are longer than your arms and as such you can use them to keep the other person at a distance
if theyre actively trying to dominate your space they will likely be throwing something at you - dont drop your hands lol
power
sometimes just one single well placed well timed kick is all it takes
be that a leg kick which causes them to buckle or a head kick that puts them out or a liver kick or floating ribs kick that crumples them or a well placed front kick to the solar plexus
of you meet the criteria mentioned earlier for good technique and you land your kick it will hurt like hell regrdless
weirdness of defense
most people - even the ones that like to start trouble, dont seriously train to defend kicks
if you are good at them and smart about using them, especially being smart (active) with your footwork, a few good kicks is all it will take
but again in a self defense scenario the expectation should always be that they are throwing an attack of thier own
fights in this context are often determined by who is more aggressive from the begining rather than by who is uskng "better" technique "who dares, wins"
so you want to cover your vulnerables as much as possible
even just lifting the shoulder and tucking the chin behind it can be the difference between a shot that simply impacts and a shot that drops you
so sorry for the wordiness of this but basically PROTECT YOUR CHIN lol
something you can do is just always train with your hands up - some coaches ect make beginers grab or cover their ears or hold their wrists in alignment with the level of their eyes or even hold their hands above their heads altogether just to drill the habbit of keeping the hands up
whatever you need to do to instill that habbit is worth it
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"My co-worker recently created this list; as I was reading, I couldn’t decide if I should laugh or be horrified by the reality that violence prevention tips are always aimed at what the targeted person should do (judgment strongly implied) to protect themselves.
Ten rape prevention tips:
1. Don’t put drugs in women’s drinks.
2. When you see a woman walking by herself, leave her alone.
3. If you pull over to help a woman whose car has broken down, remember not to rape her.
4. If you are in an elevator and a woman gets in, don’t rape her.
5. When you encounter a woman who is asleep, the safest course of action is to not rape her.
6. Never creep into a woman’s home through an unlocked door or window, or spring out at her from between parked cars, or rape her.
7. Remember, people go to the laundry room to do their laundry. Do not attempt to molest someone who is alone in a laundry room.
8. Use the Buddy System! If it is inconvenient for you to stop yourself from raping women, ask a trusted friend to accompany you at all times.
9. Carry a rape whistle. If you find that you are about to rape someone, blow the whistle until someone comes to stop you.
10. Don’t forget: Honesty is the best policy. When asking a woman out on a date, don’t pretend that you are interested in her as a person; tell her straight up that you expect to be raping her later. If you don’t communicate your intentions, the woman may take it as a sign that you do not plan to rape her.
i know this has been posted before but i wanted specifically to state and express that victims are not responsible before i move any further into prevention and response
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https://www.rainn.org/get-information/sexual-assault-prevention
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"...some things you can do to help reduce your risk of being assaulted in social situations.
When you go to a social gathering, go with a group of friends. Arrive together, check in with each other throughout the evening, and leave together. Knowing where you are and who is around you may help you to find a way out of a bad situation.
Trust your instincts. If you feel unsafe in any situation, go with your gut. If you see something suspicious, contact law enforcement immediately (local authorities can be reached by calling 911 in most areas of the U.S.).
Don't leave your drink unattended while talking, dancing, using the restroom, or making a phone call. If you’ve left your drink alone, just get a new one.
Don't accept drinks from people you don't know or trust. If you choose to accept a drink, go with the person to the bar to order it, watch it being poured, and carry it yourself. At parties, don’t drink from the punch bowls or other large, common open containers.
Watch out for your friends, and vice versa. If a friend seems out of it, is way too intoxicated for the amount of alcohol they’ve had, or is acting out of character, get him or her to a safe place immediately.
If you suspect you or a friend has been drugged, contact law enforcement immediately (local authorities can be reached by calling 911 in most areas of the U.S.). Be explicit with doctors so they can give you the correct tests (you will need a urine test and possibly others).
What should I do if I am sexually assaulted?
Sexual assault is a crime of motive and opportunity. Ultimately, there is no surefire ways to prevent an attack. If you or someone you know has been affected by sexual violence, it’s not your fault. You are not alone. Help is available 24/7 through the National Sexual Assault Hotlines at 1-800.656.HOPE, and online at rainn.org
You have a crucial role to play in keeping your friends safe. No matter what the setting, if you see something that doesn’t feel quite right or see someone who might be in trouble, there are some simple things you can do to help out a friend.
Distract. If you see a friend in a situation that doesn’t feel quite right, create a distraction
to get your friend to safety. This can be as simple as joining or redirecting the conversation: suggest to your friend that you leave the party, or ask them to walk you home. Try asking questions like: “Do you want to head to the bathroom with me?” or “Do you want to head to another party – or grab pizza?”
Step in. If you see someone who looks uncomfortable or is at risk, step in. If you feel
safe, find a way to de-escalate the situation and separate all parties involved. Don’t be shy
about directly asking the person if they need help or if they feel uncomfortable.
Enlist others. You don’t have to go it alone. Call in friends or other people in the area
as reinforcements to help defuse a dangerous situation and get the at-risk person home safely. There is safety in numbers.
Keep an eye out. Use your eyes and ears to observe your surroundings. If you
see someone who has had too much to drink or could be vulnerable, try to get them to a safe place. Enlist friends to help you. Even if you weren’t around when the assault occurred, you can still support a friend in the aftermath.
For more ways to support a friend, see "six ways you can respond to a survivor".
i want to add for those who arent aware that the longer a woman delays contacting the police the more difficult it is to prove in court
the natural immediate desire for most people is to shower after an assault but this will help the attacker to avoid prosecution
the more of his dna the police can recover the better your chances of seeing him put away (and i dont care what people want to babble on about women victimizing men, the vast majority of violent sexual assaults aka rapes are perpetuated by men, and against women to a greater degree than against other men, outside of prison or the catholic church)
http://www.wikihow.com/Prevent-a-Potential-Rape
this is about 17 minutes
she's not what some might call an "expert" but she is a woman and she is sincere and thats expert enough to be relevant imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMBsZClzqVc
if you look up how to survive attacks from various wild animals, once it has reached the point where fighting becomes your only option to avoid being killed, what they invariably tell you regardless of the animal is that you have to fight with everything you have got
you have to fight with more ferocity than the animal that is attacking you
that is how you convince the animal to leave you alone
some exploration in technique
this video has some harsh language but it is a very good place to start
8 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ7cLXQgB4c
i like this video and i like this woman (not to say i know her personally but that i respect her very much from what see)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L13PSj3hZE
and on that note i want to say that brzillian jujitsu is an essential martial art for rape prevention
thats not an opinion lol its reality
other systems may offer better techniques for getting away or for preventing but the body positioning of a rape is the exact body positioning that bjj specializes in.
9 minutes (this will look familiar if you watced the first "solo jujistu drills" video
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rape+self+defense
this has some good info as well
15 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9sXESeKBik
im really not sure what more would be realistic in exploring this subject from within the context of a thread on the internet
if anyone has any resources which they consider quality and provides information that i have missed please jump in and contribute or send me a pm and i will add it here
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9 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDfhFzGacsI
30 minute boxing workout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJG6pYHHTPA
capoeira is an excellent system for great flexibility, balance, conditioning, coordination, and powerful powerful kicks
im not interested in arguing capoeiras use in mma or "street fighting"
i lived on the street and ive fought on the street and if you want to use capoeira kicks in a real fight it is not at all impossible to do it, especially if you have good footwork and movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTOUT-rCOWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNYklGAr0Vg
this is a kick that has the potential to end a fight in one shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lod0b__u8h4
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the trauma of the situation does not facilitate clear thinking and so some things need to be understood before hand
for best likelihood of the attacker being convicted it is important to GO TO THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY
"Q What questions do the police ask a rape victim?
Best Answer: The initial investigators will ask generally what happened and determine whether or not the victim knows who attacked her. They will ask her if she is hurt and will get her medical attention. They will ask the hospital or physician to collect samples of DNA and other evidence from the victim and professionals will document wounds, scratches, etc. on the victim's body if any are there.
Later the investigators will ask for a fairly detailed description of the attack and will ask for detailed descriptions of the attacker if the victim does not know the person's identity. She will also be asked to view photos of people that are known offenders in order to determine whether one of them was the person who raped her.
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I was a victim of a rape by a stranger 4 years ago when I was 18."
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its common for people to not want police involvement
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/campus-rape-victims-choice-should-be-lawmakers-priority
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D8r-wH0dkk
warm up 6 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrgPzp0GBcw
20 minute bodyweight workout
this guy helped restructure the fitness program for the parts of the U.S. miitary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF5-uMJD8uw
8 minutes of awesomeness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3BZJsASoF4
stepping/skipping side kick - very powerful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu978bM46p0
tkd turning side kick and turning back kick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbiSAs3zSEY
spinning roundhouse (looks like spinning back kick at first)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijby_65ZxTU
jumping back kick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cxkTpVlVSI
chuck liddell
right hook 1:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCU64CwmYc
overhand right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqf42bsTXnY
liver shot and more overhand right 10:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ZGZNw0xAc
french savate (i dont know whats more dangerous, the kicks or the clothes!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMJed79-WoM
this last is about 4 minutes
the first kick (kick # 10)
he caught him at just the right angle to kill his leg
he hit directly on the knee and if you look close he caused the leg to crook in the wrong direction
this i think was partly because of the red fighters lead leg posture
the timing was important too in terms of how the red fighters weight was distributed
second kick (#9)
made me realize kicking is valid in places i didnt expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwBe2UtVycc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW8BZ7pRt28
bulletproof mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4k96Z4U5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FTV9nExiDE
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(check out his karambit videos)
this show is a head to head gun vs knife exploration
this first vid is an intro to the topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxZC5B0D0C8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDPlWAq-11I
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its the one with the guys in bright green amd black spandex
maybe a kick like the ones their working is what youre thinking?
and for my way of thinking, a respectful.exploration of the subtopics and skills is fine
i just dont want someone comingin around telling people that the thing theyve spent half their life doing because they love it and it brings them happiness is garbage because some guy with camo pants or a gym sponsorship said it doesnt work "on the street" or because they havent seen it practiced in an ULTIMATE FIGHTER episode
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using that rule i choose the type of injury, by taking a hit in order to land a stronger hit or to use an incapacitating grapple...i've taken pretty hard hits on purpose just to do more damage than could be inflicted on me...plus once the first hit is out of the way the butterflies in the stomach go away....i'm not a fan of pain and if i'm faster than my opponent i'll simply bypass the pain part and finish things before either of us can really get hurt. of course i'm not afraid of pain either and have endured more than my fair share...i've been stabbed...it sucks, but the pain passes quickly when adrenaline is flowing...and the pain tends to fuel my anger....i've been hit by a car 3 different times....been bitten by a pittbul and a doberman....nearly severed 3 fingers....i know pain, both physical and mental...pain can be endured, it can be controlled, it can be purged....
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OB1Shinobi wrote: a couple posts above yours there is a vid which says FRENCH SAVATE
its the one with the guys in bright green amd black spandex
maybe a kick like the ones their working is what youre thinking?
the points you bring up are totally in line with the topic
headbutting someones punches - if it worked for you thats cool, generally the consensus is that its better not to use your head to hurt their hand - im not being a smartss im being sincere
check out this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x44dnY5smUI
a little more on that note
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA3c8QGL4K0
also your post is entirely in line with the thread
looking back at that experience, replaying it step by step - what else could you have done differently?
is there anything you could have done better before the incident started?
is there anything you think you might have been able to say to prevent it from turning into a fight?
you mentioned that you had already met the kid
think of the times you dealt with him or saw him or when you met him
how did he treat people?
what kinds of things did he talk about?
take your time with these
just think about them for a little while at least before answering
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"Is there anything you could have done better before the incident started?"
After the incident was over we hopped over the wall that surrounded the condo area.... it was only a 7-8 foot wall... we could have done that instead of standing in the culdesac debating what to do as they were walking towards us.
"Is there anything you think you might have been able to say to prevent it from turning into a fight?"
Maybe... they kept talking about fighting and we said several times we didnt want to fight until the point the one guy just went for it.
And on the topic of having known the other kid, I actually knew both, but the other didnt step in during or after the fight, so I didnt include him, he was the type that stood back and egged things on but didnt get involved, I went to school with this particular kid and his three buddies. One day in home room the teacher left for awhile to do something so everyone kinda got up grouped up and began talking, so I got up to do the same. As I walked up the row of desk to get to my friends several rows over and got to the front of the room one of this particular kids buddies walked up to my side and started punching me in both the stomach and back multiple times, then walked back to his buddies and they all started laughing. Thankfully I have a really high pain tolerance and he didnt seem to be able to hit hard and I just stood there and gave him a "What was that" look....
As for the other kid, I knew him from a swim team I used to be in... its hard to describe him... hes one of those that wasnt mean to anyone or anything persay... but always trying to make himself look cool to others, and I beleive thats what led up to that night...One of the more popular cool kids egging him on, and him wanting to prove he could be cool with them, or something to that effect. Looking back is a bit harder since the tension and situation was what it was, but I honestly beleive the outcome was gonna be a fight either way given the situation, like I stated in my first post, thats why I didnt turn my back on them to walk away as things went on BEFORE the fight...
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i want to tell you something that i did when i was a kid - and i dont say "something that happened to me"
me and my younger sister were in a summer camp deal for the days while our mom was at work
we i guess were about 7 and 8 or 8 and 9 something like that
we were waking along and these kids yell something really nasty about our mom
several of them were bigger and i was not really excited about fighting them all
i tell my sister just ignore them and lets keep walking but they yell it again and she not only yells something mean back at them
but as soon as she yells it she starts running away
well when people run away people chase them lol
at least sometimes - you have to convince them to think twice about chasing you first somehow
so i run too but theyre catching up to us because we were smaller and especially my sister couldnt really run that fast
so i tell my sister to run ahead and go to this office that was up a ways off in the basic direction we were running and get a grown up and i stop and kind of cut them off so she could get help
when a few of them get to me one of the kids comes up and starts pushing me
now this guy was even smaller than me and i wasnt afraid of him
but there were three other boys with him and two of them were definitely bigger than me and i was definitely afraid
at some point i push the littler kid away from me because he started slapping at my face
well thats what the others were waiting for and the biggest one comes up to me and says "why are you picking on my little brother?" lol
i was scared
he hit me in the face
he hit me and hit at me a few times and the most i did was push him back off of me
i really dont even remember how i got away from these kids but it wasnt anything heroic or awesome
for a long time i was really ashamed of myself because i was afraid
now
the reason ive told you about this is because i want to show by example that i am not afraid to honestly look at myself and see where fear made me act in certain ways
i was afraid of the bigger kids especially the oldest brother
i remember he just really looked like a mean kid to me
he had these real dark rings under his eyes
anyway i wanted to ask you to think about what difference being afraid might have made in how you handled these situations you mentioned
like when the kid hit you in class that day
im not expecting or asking for you to share anything more personal than you already have
it doesnt even matter if you answer me
the important thing is that youre honest with yourself about how much of an influence fear might or might not have been in how you reacted to the different situations
also i think thats going to be the next sub topic i focus on
thanks for participating, ive been getting lonely in here lol
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RyuJin wrote: one of my general acceptances is that if you have to fight expect to get some sort of injury....
using that rule i choose the type of injury, by taking a hit in order to land a stronger hit or to use an incapacitating grapple...i've taken pretty hard hits on purpose just to do more damage than could be inflicted on me...plus once the first hit is out of the way the butterflies in the stomach go away....i'm not a fan of pain and if i'm faster than my opponent i'll simply bypass the pain part and finish things before either of us can really get hurt. of course i'm not afraid of pain either and have endured more than my fair share...i've been stabbed...it sucks, but the pain passes quickly when adrenaline is flowing...and the pain tends to fuel my anger....i've been hit by a car 3 different times....been bitten by a pittbul and a doberman....nearly severed 3 fingers....i know pain, both physical and mental...pain can be endured, it can be controlled, it can be purged....
i know this is really dumb but theres this show MANSWERS and they did a segment on what to do if youre ever hit by a car
like how do you use your posture so that you maximize your chance to survive
basically what i remembered was that you kind of sideroll high up onto the hood
well i dont know exactly how long it was after i saw that episode but my roomate drover her car at me to eff with me (she was kind of playing she wasnt really trying to hurt me per se) and she assumed i would just get out of the way
but i had just seen this show lol and i knew she wouldnt be going so fast that i would get really hurt
so i just rolled up onto her car
she was going a little bit faster than i realized - she really expected me to get out of the way lol she was mad at me
i asked her why she was mad at me - "you hit me i didnt hit you"
not at all the same as what youre talking about but its what you reminded me of
i do have a nice little scar on my forehead (bout half length of my index finger) from a dude with a padlock in his hand and the ligament in my right shoulder was separated from an incident with someone i really shoulda known better than to mess around with lol got thrown into a tree
my first really great job - my ONLY really great job actually - was as a canvasser for an environmental organization FCAN and i have described myself for years as a tree hugging hippie
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never been stabbed - never been shot
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something about adrenaline;
when i wanted to learn about real life knife defense - this was quite a few years ago, the stuff out there now is not that bad if you look but this was maybe ten or twelve yrs back - people were saying stuff like kick the knife out of his hand then chop to the back of his neck kind of stuff
so i went online and web searched for footage of actual knife attacks
they were hard to find but a site that has been referenced here already comegetyousome or comegetmesome.com
they had real footage
what really suprised me was that i saw people being stabbed over and over and they were still moving as if they werent being stabbed at all
or the same way they would move if they had only been punched
i saw a vid of a girl get stabbed in the ankle and then kick the girl that stabbed her WITH THE LEG THAT JUST GOT STABBED
so i did more web stuff and i found a story about a guy who calls 911 and says "i beat this dude up - i was on top of him and i hit him over and over - i knocked him out i think - i think i hurt him bad there was blood everywhere
when the police arrive the guy who made the call was dead at the phone booth
he had been stabbed repeatedly and didnt realize the blood was his
which taught me a bunch of things over the years as my mind goes back to that but two main things are
always assume they are using a knife
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if someone is using a knife dont freak out - focus
"whats the first rule of a survival situation?"
"dont panic"
i feel like i might be perceived as an internet tough guy for saying this and i understand how easy it is to say "dont panic" when someone is stabbing you from the safety of my keyboard
but it still stands that for most people stabbing with most knives it takes quite a bit of time to really stop someone definitively and the quicker you can just lock it down and act directly upon them the sooner you get out of that situation and the less they will be able to hurt you
point of fact i dont remember what the process is called but our bodies in intense situations like that have a mechanism which prevent instant bleeding in wounds
some wounds are just too large but puncture wounds will often not bleed profusely until the adrenaline has stopped flooding the blood stream
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unless you have specific strategies for making it work quickly - a knife is not a good self defense weapon
the "unless you have specific strategies" is important
theyre excellent weapons if you only expect them to do what they can do and you know what that really is and develop tactics accordingly
but just randomly stabbing or cutting is not any better per se that what you can do without the knife except now youve escalated the situation AND used a deadly weapon
shoot im curious how many people cut THEMSELVES using knives in fights
anyway its the principle of researching how things really happen in actual scenarios and training specifics beforehand
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in professional fights like boxing and mma if a fighter gets cut over his eyes they will stop the fight (if the cutman cant keep the bleeding in check - this is why GOOD cutmen are important to pro fighters)
they stop the fight because when blood gets into your eyes you cant see punches and kicks coming at you
like even if its only getting into one eye if someone throws a hook technique at you from your blind side it can - well - blind side you lol and really hurt you
so another good reason not to use your head to hurt their hands is because its easy to cut the scalp and that can result in problems
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And another thing... might also sound odd... I grew up watching Naruto on cartoon network... This was back when I didnt have alot of friends and the ones I did have we were always the targets of ridicule or bullying in school. So watching Naruto I understood it was a fictional cartoon, but I understood the MORALS and other things being portrayed in it. And I think from a young age that has altered my view on self defense... When it comes to self defense or defense of others Im not afraid to stand up and take a hit for them, or do what it takes to ensure their safety over mine if need be. Oh.. and I wasnt to worried about getting hit on the head that night, I had been deflecting his swings for several minutes and could judge his power.
Im not trying to turn this into some sort of brag-fest saying I can do this and that really... but I dont get many chances to talk about the few encounters I had or the ability to talk to someone about how my brain works with stuff like this, without people looking like Im crazy, or just telling me I have a big ego and all Im doing is bragging.... so its kinda refreshing to be able to talk about it a bit...
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its under ten minutes and has some excellent info - coincidentally he sort of explains that process i mentioned last post about not bleeding right away
some language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fogu_zWRXU
also heres a specific tactic he gives for dealing with a crappy situation - also under ten minutes - also language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2yo_sAQbg
this guy talks a little too much but he says great stuff
coincidentally he also mentions the guy in the last two videos lol
12 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3w4jsgH4s0
about fifteen minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDo1EIOqG3k
People are complicated.
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