Sith Realist Resources

Manu, Connor, you both really seem to have taken a decidedly adversarial position in this discussion, and gotten somewhat off topic from the actual thread. Please reconsider what you are arguing compared to the actual discussion presented.
At this point, I can objectively say you're no longer contributing to a discussion, you're trying to win an argument.
Please consider stepping back and consider what good is actually expected to come from this continuous echo chamber.
Ren, if I may be so presumptuous, it may do you more good as well, to take a step back from this.

On that note - why would you try to teach the dark side at a Jedi Temple? Why is it some ones goal to “make others know...
Any ones free to learn anything they want and even share it here but use a bit of tact. Please and thank you.

There is no teaching happening here. Let me know if you see any teaching.

Connor L. wrote:

On that note - why would you try to teach the dark side at a Jedi Temple? Why is it some ones goal to “make others know...
Any ones free to learn anything they want and even share it here but use a bit of tact. Please and thank you.

There is no teaching happening here. Let me know if you see any teaching.

At the same time -if this is intentional and just for the sake of arguing I’ll have no part in it. You are in a Jedi Temple. Use Tact and common sense please.
Thank you

Why Stormcaller? I'm having a good laugh :laugh:

“Ren” wrote: There was no such implication. I thought we were leaving assumptions behind?

I’m sorry, I had understood that it was your thesis that a member of a faith will not criticize their own beliefs.

Stormcaller, I appreciate your effort to “calm the waters”, but I don’t think either of us (Ren, Connor, or me) have let this discussion get out of hand or become offensive.

The issue of Criticizing one’s own faith is not off topic either, it is at heart of Jediism as Sithism was born out of a schism in Jediism due to a lack of openness.

You're shifting the goal post, now, Connor, which is bad form in debate. This is not the first time you've done it in this discussion. Please stop, as you are now pushing into the realm of mere antagonism.

I would think questioning your faith is something everyone does. It gives a deeper understanding and sometimes leads to a falling away.
Sometimes to return stronger or not at all.

Its part of at least most people I know not to blindly follow.

And the same I would think of the Sith

Its good to have different opinions. And interesting to read peoples opinion about the sith code.

One thing I do wonder the Sith themselves, its not a faith, but a way of life?
So do you believe in the force?
If I say I believe in an energy/life force that connects everything as a Jedi
Does the Sith have a belief similar or not at all?
If not why use this code?
Is there a reason such as familiarity like through star wars to draw people in? Or do you develop your own codes, to live, grow by?
Just dont see how this code fits with what I have read on sith sites.

Or are we discussing it because its at least familiar to Jedi?

Carlos,

This discussion’s purpose is to introduce Sith resources to the people who asked for them.

Everything else is my pokey curiosity and trying to get some interesting discussion going. I see no lack of tact. We’re all learning.

Well
i missed a lot

One thing I do wonder the Sith themselves, its not a faith, but a way of life?
So do you believe in the force?
If I say I believe in an energy/life force that connects everything as a Jedi
Does the Sith have a belief similar or not at all?
If not why use this code?
Is there a reason such as familiarity like through star wars to draw people in? Or do you develop your own codes, to live, grow by?
Just dont see how this code fits with what I have read on sith sites.

Great questions! I’ll run these by sith and see what they have to say.

My current working interpretation of the Sith code right now is this. This is after roughly 15 years with which to do so. Refining it through trial and error.

"Peace is a lie"

I am dissatified or not content with (x) in my life. The status quo will no longer suffice.

"There is only Passion"

I want (x) my "True Will."

"Through Passion i gain Strength"

Gotta build the necessary skills, abilities, relationships, attributes,etc, to get (x)

"Through Strength i gain Power"

Use what you have built to get (x)

"Through Power i gain Victory"

Achieving what you have worked for.

Connor L. wrote: Carlos,

This discussion’s purpose is to introduce Sith resources to the people who asked for them.

Everything else is my pokey curiosity and trying to get some interesting discussion going. I see no lack of tact. We’re all learning.

Sad guys - I know what y’all are doing and it’s sad really- bad form.
This never works out - but continue if you like. I’m not telling you no, and I’m sure you guys are having a blast . Coming to this Temple and instigate things isn’t what we are about. Sad really. Feel free to have the last say. Things that don’t change can be predicted easily. May the Force be with you. Manu - my manu- I miss u. Hope you find or are finding what you have been seeking.

Carlos.Martinez3 wrote: Manu - my manu- I miss u. Hope you find or are finding what you have been seeking.

I’m right here, bro.

Carlos
I am not sure I understand what you think is happening.
But I asked about the Sith because I think it is worth understanding.
Here I can ask and maybe learn about stuff, I find interesting.
This isnt connor or anyone else but about wanting to find an understanding because I think both sides of the coin is needed to see the whole picture.

elizabeth wrote: Carlos
I am not sure I understand what you think is happening.
But I asked about the Sith because I think it is worth understanding.
Here I can ask and maybe learn about stuff, I find interesting.
This isnt connor or anyone else but about wanting to find an understanding because I think both sides of the coin is needed to see the whole picture.

Feel free but also understand that there are web sites you can go to on your own. Sith vs the Temple is a harmful thing.

Edit: to learn about the Sith visit a sith site- please don’t ask here in a Jedi Temple. That’s not what we do.

It’s bad form and it can harm more than anything. This is only my opinion but there is more going on that this I promise you. This is teaching flat out. We expressly ask not to shunn around the rules and it will result in the same results as breaking the rules. You think that out of respect - if one person asks another person not to , they would - instead of insisting on continuing? Not the case here. The Associate Pastor of the Temple request you not —-but notice ... this will continue. So , I understand what this is. Trust me. Should you continue is up to you. Thank you for your time.

Carlos, you're either mistaken or pushing an agenda. Please clarify which it is.

I have been to other websites and been burned badly.
Here I though it would be at least less harmful to get an idea about resources.
But as I re read this thread I can understand where you are coming from and it could seem that through discussion of things such as the code I am learning.
However this was not the intention, but then we learn through many avenues. Discussion just one of them.
If I have broken any rules I apologise and will continue my thoughts via my journal.
If anyone wishes to comment their please feel free to do so.
Thank you

I believe you haven't been attacked at all here, elizabeth. Sorry if you feel that way. We're all just chatting.

I would like to vouch for Manu and Connor to confirm that their intentions are non-malicious.

My idea of a Jedi includes the trait of being open to listen without judgement and to drive with honest questions when feeling concerned about what they are hearing, for the intention of clearing any reason to be concerned or help confirm it for sure.

Gathering a Jedi's thoughts on the sith's way of seeing things I think can be quite valuable as long as it stays understood what is being explained.

I really appreciate that, Pro. Thank you.

Perhaps we can come back to thoughts on the Code, as it were? I will put up another resource in another couple of days.