Prefix Titles for Knights (Male / Female)

Ah yes. That is true.

Then I suppose that would leave out any technical justification for "sir" and "lady" that I can think of beyond just another way to optionally address someone of a knight rank honorably.

Mark Anjuu wrote: It's not a title as such, but a way of mentioning rank. It's in no way compulsory.

For instance, you could call me "Grandmaster Mark" but there's really no need to!

Only in the bedroom eh Mark?

Although I do think we should be able to address knights via Sir? I.e. Sir Akkarin/Sir Michael? Even if it's between us...I think it'd add more of a seriousness about us...but then again we're all brothers and sisters here...so it's quite relaxed....

Metsu Desal wrote: Only in the bedroom eh Mark?

Oh, I have a very different set of titles for then....

What if we use the idea within some kind of ceremonial light, even if it's only ever used then?

Example: During the Knighting Ceremony, at or near the end, you could say "I now dub thee Sir/Lady [such and such]"

Again, we don't really have the right to award such titles....

"In the British honor system the knightly style of Sir is accompanied by the given name, and optionally the surname.....
Outside the British honours system it is usually considered improper to address a knighted person as 'Sir' or 'Dame'."

Oh, ok. lol

I understand now.

Thanks!

As I love conversation, and being a pain...

And as an American, I feel I have the right to say and do what ever I damn well please, let me ask...

(just kidding)

What give the British the excluvsive right?

Seriously, Im just curious...

I am hoping as a dumb uneducated, colonist, to understand this part...

(seriously, why is this the only authority?)

We (the UK) are not the only authority, It's just that we are the ones that mainly use such titles as part of our honours system. Some of our "Commonwealth" adopt them too but you guys broke away long ago!

As an extra note of trivia: in the UK, ordained Ministers cannot use the prefix "Sir" or "Dame" when they achieve a sufficient honour unless they were ordained after their Knighting.

Cant we call the Queen Momma and ask her for a special disposition?

We have a queen...without a king and/or queen there can not be knights...because of medieval times...America has no king or queen Jestor...

We could have if Washington wanted to... they (colonists and founding fathers) did offer him the chance to be king about two times.


So instead of Kings and Queens we have, bear with me here, "His High Mightiness, the President of the United States and Protector of their Liberties" We Americans are so lucky that we no longer have to call Presidents that, but that is the technical title and way to address the President of the United States..too much of a mouthfull really

I spent a little while wondering about using accomplishment, personality and specialty based titles for Knights. Specific little informal titles. For example; William Kaede, Knight of Heresy.


Something that gives insight into a person. They'd have to be given by others though.

Jestor wrote: Cant we call the Queen Momma and ask her for a special disposition?

Not recently you can't (Unless you have a Ouija board):dry:

Williamkaede wrote: I spent a little while wondering about using accomplishment, personality and specialty based titles for Knights. Specific little informal titles. For example; William Kaede, Knight of Heresy.

George Romero Knight of the Living Dead? (Sorry couldn't resist, I'll get my coat!)

Seishan wrote:

Williamkaede wrote: I spent a little while wondering about using accomplishment, personality and specialty based titles for Knights. Specific little informal titles. For example; William Kaede, Knight of Heresy.

George Romero Knight of the Living Dead? (Sorry couldn't resist, I'll get my coat!)

Um, with humor like that....

I bow to you sir....

:woohoo:

Alastor wrote: "His High Mightiness, the President of the United States and Protector of their Liberties"

I actually snorted with laughter at that one. Sorry!

Metsu Desal wrote: We have a queen...without a king and/or queen there can not be knights...because of medieval times...America has no king or queen Jestor...

It was my understanding that one simply needed a font of honor with sufficient authority--IIRC, other Churches have used the authority of their Divinity as their font, through their high priest, whereas more "modern" organizations tend to find their fonts in heads of state.

While the titles themselves may cause a bit of a row in public, I don't necessarily know that there's anything stopping one from doing so. That said, I would assume that many areas of British origin would have some kind of law governing their use.

Like I think I saw before, would rank be used as a ceremonial purpose. I don't mean like "sir" or "lady", but the ranks like master, knight or whatever. Like in wedding ceremonies, formal gatherings and the such. For example: you are in the military and you are very close to your CO. Any other time you would call him by his name, but formally you refer to his rank. I hope I made sense lol I sometimes can't type what I'm thinking in my head.

ferreire580 wrote: Like I think I saw before, would rank be used as a ceremonial purpose. I don't mean like "sir" or "lady", but the ranks like master, knight or whatever. Like in wedding ceremonies, formal gatherings and the such. For example: you are in the military and you are very close to your CO. Any other time you would call him by his name, but formally you refer to his rank. I hope I made sense lol I sometimes can't type what I'm thinking in my head.

Lol I just noticed I use "like" way too much hahaha :laugh:

Brenna wrote:

Alastor wrote: "His High Mightiness, the President of the United States and Protector of their Liberties"

I actually snorted with laughter at that one. Sorry!

I did too. Not just because of the name, but because that is far from accurate for our current president

Every time I see this thread I can't help but want the title...

Number-one Mega-Super Ultra-Ultimate Bad-Ass Jedi Dude... Sir.

hahahhahahhahha :woohoo: