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Taking Part in the Process...As an experienced Jedi
7 years 8 months ago #221390
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Seems to me that the best place to start is always at the beginning 
I rose to 3rd degree blackbelt and then started in a slightly different style, it was refreshing to wear the white belt again
Sometimes being at the beginning can give your fresh eyes.

I rose to 3rd degree blackbelt and then started in a slightly different style, it was refreshing to wear the white belt again

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7 years 8 months ago #221413
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The past is the past.
What would you say to those that know nothing of the Jedi path in the last 2 decades?
They will only judge you as you are presently, and if all that will ever amount to is tales of the past, well, I myself have been on this path quite a long time now, and even in my case, I would rather be judged by my present actions, then past writings.
If only because one time, someone quoted a lecture I had written ten years ago in regards to something I had said presently, calling me a hypocrite, etc. To which I simply replied that my path is ever changing and evolving, and so, who I am today is not who I was ten years ago, nor should I be measured by that, nor would I want to be. Are you not be different from your past writings, thoughts, and actions? If not, then that in itself needs to be addressed.
I always question people who can only speak in the past tense of actions, or experiences. By and large it speaks of stagnation, as if your have no new stories, or experiences, present ones, or are not making any, then you are not growing.
You are proud of your past obviously. Still, I see no reason why you feel it should afford you any leeway on present actions and experiences. Some, may not even go back half of half that far, and for many of us that do...Well, speaking for myself, I simply dont care.
You are attached to the past in what seems to be an unhealthy way.
I have no interest in what someone once did.
I have no interest in what someone will do.
I am interested in what they are doing NOW.
Thats worth talking about.
What would you say to those that know nothing of the Jedi path in the last 2 decades?
They will only judge you as you are presently, and if all that will ever amount to is tales of the past, well, I myself have been on this path quite a long time now, and even in my case, I would rather be judged by my present actions, then past writings.
If only because one time, someone quoted a lecture I had written ten years ago in regards to something I had said presently, calling me a hypocrite, etc. To which I simply replied that my path is ever changing and evolving, and so, who I am today is not who I was ten years ago, nor should I be measured by that, nor would I want to be. Are you not be different from your past writings, thoughts, and actions? If not, then that in itself needs to be addressed.
I always question people who can only speak in the past tense of actions, or experiences. By and large it speaks of stagnation, as if your have no new stories, or experiences, present ones, or are not making any, then you are not growing.
You are proud of your past obviously. Still, I see no reason why you feel it should afford you any leeway on present actions and experiences. Some, may not even go back half of half that far, and for many of us that do...Well, speaking for myself, I simply dont care.
You are attached to the past in what seems to be an unhealthy way.
I have no interest in what someone once did.
I have no interest in what someone will do.
I am interested in what they are doing NOW.
Thats worth talking about.
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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #221414
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Though I could agree with that opinion, I can not agree with your opinion. :blush: I have to mention that the Temple of the Jedi Order is bound to rules, and how good a persons intentions may be, I think that it would not change the policy. Judgement is not only based on how we are, but also on where we stand on the ladder. How unfair this may sound to some.. Please correct me if I tell rubbish, it will be appreciated by me.
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Khaos wrote: The past is the past.
They will only judge you as you are presently
Though I could agree with that opinion, I can not agree with your opinion. :blush: I have to mention that the Temple of the Jedi Order is bound to rules, and how good a persons intentions may be, I think that it would not change the policy. Judgement is not only based on how we are, but also on where we stand on the ladder. How unfair this may sound to some.. Please correct me if I tell rubbish, it will be appreciated by me.

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #221416
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You have completely lost me on what your trying to convey.
Intentions are all well and good, but the road to hell is paved with them so im told.
Actions will always speak louder than words, and results will always say more than intentions about an individual.
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Aqua wrote:
Khaos wrote: The past is the past.
They will only judge you as you are presently
Though I could agree with that opinion, I can not agree with your opinion. :blush: I have to mention that the Temple of the Jedi Order is bound to rules, and how good a persons intentions may be, I think that it would not change the policy. Judgement is not only based on how we are, but also on where we stand on the ladder. How unfair this may sound to some.. Please correct me if I tell rubbish, it will be appreciated by me.
You have completely lost me on what your trying to convey.
Intentions are all well and good, but the road to hell is paved with them so im told.
Actions will always speak louder than words, and results will always say more than intentions about an individual.
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7 years 8 months ago #221418
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I think he means influence here is directly correlated to what rank you have.
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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #221424
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that would depend on what one means by "influence"
if you want the title or the "authority" then do the work that is set out for earning it
if you want to be some kind of positive influence then do your best to learn from others and to participate in a way that gets people to think
if you want the title or the "authority" then do the work that is set out for earning it
if you want to be some kind of positive influence then do your best to learn from others and to participate in a way that gets people to think
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