Its time to reclaim religion

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31 Dec 2016 16:12 #270577 by RosalynJ
I watched this TED Talk and thought you would find it interesting.

Sharon Brous: It's time to reclaim religion
https://go.ted.com/CyyR

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2AkfgkoSMNU

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31 Dec 2016 18:33 #270596 by
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Thank you, Ros. Rabbi Brous has a refreshing grasp on the purpose of religion (or maybe what the purpose of religion should be).

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01 Jan 2017 01:09 #270619 by Breeze el Tierno
So, are we up to answer this call?

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01 Jan 2017 02:41 #270626 by
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I am! I loved this video.

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01 Jan 2017 03:29 #270632 by
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I agree its time to reclaim the concept of religion and ritual.

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01 Jan 2017 04:16 #270640 by
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I'm all for helping those in need, but when she started getting hyperpolitical and using every buzzword she could think of at the end it really turned me off to what she was trying to say.

I think her earlier message was great about religions revitalizing and coexisting without falling into stagnation. I believe churches should do more to help their community in general. Many do great work already, but I have been too many churches who make good money from donations, and instead of cleaning the neighborhood they use it to paint their parking lot or buy more plasma TVs for their lobby.

The problem I have with this speech is that she is taking issues that have two sides to the story such as BLM, and Aleppo, and she insinuates that if you do not want to act on those things that you are in the wrong. That's a very arrogant way of looking at things if you do not have all the facts.

Anyways. Fighting for things you believe in is a very noble thing to do, just don't guilt people for not believing in the same things that you do.

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01 Jan 2017 05:19 #270645 by
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I could not agree more with her statements in this video. I am setting here after just watching the ball drop for New Years Eve contemplating how much better this world would be if Jediism was more widespread and the tenets of respecting all life simply because they are also part of the Force as we are. I am making my resolution to be more open and understanding to all people I come in contact with from this point onward. Thank you for sharing this video, I have much to meditate upon tonight as this is the Day of Reflection.
May you all have a year of Peace and Love for all.
May the Force be with you.
-Tiano

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01 Jan 2017 06:26 #270646 by Tellahane

Tiano Kenda wrote: I could not agree more with her statements in this video. I am setting here after just watching the ball drop for New Years Eve contemplating how much better this world would be if Jediism was more widespread...


Be mindful of that thought process, I think what you are aiming for is how much better the world would be if some of the ideals of Jediism was more wide spread, we don't need to turn into an evangelistic organization, there are plenty of spiritual paths that co-exist just fine with Jediism, need not decide for the world what would be ideal per say.
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01 Jan 2017 06:32 - 01 Jan 2017 06:33 #270647 by RosalynJ
As Tellahane explained above, it might be more useful to be exemplary

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01 Jan 2017 12:32 #270667 by void
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Sirch Nayr wrote: The problem I have with this speech is that she is taking issues that have two sides to the story such as BLM, and Aleppo, and she insinuates that if you do not want to act on those things that you are in the wrong. That's a very arrogant way of looking at things if you do not have all the facts.


Just because an issue has two sides doesn't mean those sides are equal.
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01 Jan 2017 13:09 - 01 Jan 2017 13:13 #270670 by RosalynJ

steamboat28 wrote:

Sirch Nayr wrote: The problem I have with this speech is that she is taking issues that have two sides to the story such as BLM, and Aleppo, and she insinuates that if you do not want to act on those things that you are in the wrong. That's a very arrogant way of looking at things if you do not have all the facts.


Just because an issue has two sides doesn't mean those sides are equal.


Its more likely that in pealing back the layers we doscover that an issue has more than two sides even.

When I was a younger Jedi, I was taught the following:
Day by day we use three codes (or mantras)

The Yet Code
(As in "emotion, yet peace" etc)
This is the code of balance

The Skywalker Code
(As in "Jedi are the guardians of peace, they use their knowledge to defend and protect" etc.)

or in my case the TOTJO Jedi Creed.
("I am a Jedi an instrument of peace" etc.)

These are Codes/Creeds of Direction. In other words they give us a mission

And then there is the No code. Its the code of action.
(There is no emotion, there is peace")

Most of the time we are living our lives in the yet code, but inevitably we arrive at a point where action must be taken. Its at that point we must rely on the direction code to remind us of our mission in the situation.

Once we have settled on an action to take that is in line with the mission, we can run it through the action code and ask ourselves

Do we feel peace, do we have knowledge, do we have harmony, and do we have serenity about the action we are going to take?

The problem with wanting all knowledge is that it paralyses us and permits us to do nothing. But our mission isn't to harm others and our beliefs don't really give us the means.

Why not consider doing something now with the knowledge you have, and, should the knowledge you have in the future change, change the action?

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24 Jan 2017 03:29 - 24 Jan 2017 03:30 #273399 by J. K. Barger
This is a nice call to action speech, but I'm just not sure how it would look.

This whole time I found myself considering if Buddhists, Hindus, or Taoists were losing folks like the Abrahamic religions? Or if it just 'religion' as a whole?

Either way- I can see how religion can be found to be wrote and empty (no pun intended). But then again, so is your computer or a calculator. Which reminds me..

You get out what you put in, and unfortunately I wonder that the commodified world we live in supports the "put in as least as possible for the most profitable return" mentality, and it has crept into religion. The worst part is, is that the commodity of spirit isn't really sold in 6, 12, or 30 packs- and if it isn't available to me in drive-through fashion, "to hell with it, I can drive down the road and not only get my slosh, but I can get my smokes without getting out of the car."

Look at how academics call us the "smorgasbord" or "buffet religion"; like there is something to be "got" from being an observant of something.

So I wonder if there is something more that religion is missing- and it may be wise for us to pay attention to it. How do we connect, contain, and continue the values of our Path for others, across the board?

Do we perform novel or BETTER rituals? Do we have a 'clearer' or more pragmatic truth to share? Do we serve pizza and beer at our meetings?

Personally, I don't know that answer, but I'm glad you brought it up for us to think about.

... and pizza and beer at my place.

The Force is with you, always.
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26 Jan 2017 20:05 #273835 by
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J. K. Barger wrote: This is a nice call to action speech, but I'm just not sure how it would look.

This whole time I found myself considering if Buddhists, Hindus, or Taoists were losing folks like the Abrahamic religions? Or if it just 'religion' as a whole?



I think we don't really hear about the Eastern religions losing followers because in general their particular dogma doesn't appear to be about "how many followers we can get". I imagine it really doesn't matter to them because their path is a personal one. One of the drawbacks of a religion that compels its followers to convert as many as possible is that it can take the focus off of their original intended purpose. Just my $0.02.

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