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4 years 9 months ago #330833
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We’ll get to this story too
- let’s just focus on what’s going on atm in the study


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4 years 9 months ago - 4 years 9 months ago #330897
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Exodus 8:8
Then Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron, and said, “Entreat the Lord that He may take away the frogs from me and from my people; and I will let the people go, that they may sacrifice to the Lord.”
Time to put on your interpersonal communication cap and tell me: What is Pharaoh really saying?
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Exodus 8:8
Then Pharaoh called for Moses and Aaron, and said, “Entreat the Lord that He may take away the frogs from me and from my people; and I will let the people go, that they may sacrifice to the Lord.”
Time to put on your interpersonal communication cap and tell me: What is Pharaoh really saying?
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4 years 9 months ago #330931
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"LEAVE ME ALONE!"
Pharoah can see where this is going - Aaron's magic is stronger, if the people of Egypt realise this, the dynasty could be overthrown. Best to give the Israelites a bit of religious freedom and prevent any more crazy plagues . . .
Pharoah can see where this is going - Aaron's magic is stronger, if the people of Egypt realise this, the dynasty could be overthrown. Best to give the Israelites a bit of religious freedom and prevent any more crazy plagues . . .
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I find its a very choice selection of words.
"I cannot say your God is more powerful than my own, but give us mercy from it."
In terms of being a Jedi, or someone that's 'found the Force', people have said I've changed. They first thought it was just me turning my life around, but I kept saying it was because of my discovery of this Force. Now, many of my closest friends have had to give in and recognise the power of the Force, despite their own faith saying such a thing cannot exist, simply because of the changes they've seen it bring about in my life.
"I cannot say your God is more powerful than my own, but give us mercy from it."
In terms of being a Jedi, or someone that's 'found the Force', people have said I've changed. They first thought it was just me turning my life around, but I kept saying it was because of my discovery of this Force. Now, many of my closest friends have had to give in and recognise the power of the Force, despite their own faith saying such a thing cannot exist, simply because of the changes they've seen it bring about in my life.
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It's possible that Pharaoh recognizes that this magical competition is not doing his people any good. Frogs and rivers of blood? Not worth it when all these people say they want to do is go away into the desert and hold a festival to their god. Take your frogs and go.
I will point out that in Exodus 7:3, YHVH explicitly says he will harden Pharaoh's heart on this matter. Which is to suggest that Pharaoh on his own might not have created this scenario at all, that this entire situation might be out of character for him. He may in this moment be wondering why he keeps getting mind-tricked into stopping these people from having their celebration.
Or, conversely, this might be the moment when he isn't under the mental influence of his own magicians, since his heart is consistently hardened when they perform their own wonders.
(I'm not attached to any of these, but they are all interpretations available in the text.)
I will point out that in Exodus 7:3, YHVH explicitly says he will harden Pharaoh's heart on this matter. Which is to suggest that Pharaoh on his own might not have created this scenario at all, that this entire situation might be out of character for him. He may in this moment be wondering why he keeps getting mind-tricked into stopping these people from having their celebration.
Or, conversely, this might be the moment when he isn't under the mental influence of his own magicians, since his heart is consistently hardened when they perform their own wonders.
(I'm not attached to any of these, but they are all interpretations available in the text.)
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4 years 9 months ago #330936
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Not a lot of people catch that it was GOD who hardened Pharaoh's heart.
I'm considering a future study on God and the concept of Free Will in the Bible. But I'm not so certain there's really enough in there to do one (obviously not enough for the original 5 week concept I had
, but it would be interesting if I could get enough for like a day study and release it as this one if the group thinks this is a worthwhile endeavor).


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