Christian Fundamentalist/Protestant/Hebrew Israelite Jedi

I group these together because they pretty much have the same belief systems except one uses different names. They are all anti RCC. No images, no occultism, no paganism. So is anyone on here a Christian protestant Jedi? Anyone on here who doesn't believe in the force? I've started writing my journals but have yet to publish them on here because some things are bothering me concerning the force and there are christian apologetics ministries that are attacking the Jedi way. I don't see Jedi as a religion because there are no rituals, dogma, or belief in a deity or afterlife. I see it as a philosophical spiritual path. My journals at the moment are really long and I can ramble on and on for hours. If I choose to continue in the TOTJO when I am done, I can actually publish my journal as a dairy and motivational teaching tool because I can speak so much.

Perhaps it would help us to know what's bothering you about the Force. We don't have a complete definition for it, what I consider to be the Force may be different to another's.

You say we're not a religion, yet I would say the definition of religion suggests otherwise, I would put us under number 2 personally.

It's just a label though, it really doesn't matter whether you consider us a religion, philosophy, cult or way of life.
That said, I'm not religious and have issues with the idea of clergy, but it doesn't matter because totjo is more than that

Regarding the apologetics, does it matter to you what they think? Belief is personal.

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Well I'm not trying to advertise my book- but it might actually help you in answering this question (plus all proceeds made by me from the book goes to a great cause- StandUp for Kids). But you can find the book on Amazon: Setanaoko's School for Jedi: The Uninitiated.

Alethea Thompson wrote: Well I'm not trying to advertise my book- but it might actually help you in answering this question (plus all proceeds made by me from the book goes to a great cause- StandUp for Kids). But you can find the book on Amazon: Setanaoko's School for Jedi: The Uninitiated.

Could you explain perhaps how your book would help?

I am a Christian, though I'm a lot of things. I'm also a Taoist and a Zen practitioner.

As someone with many titles, I too am curious what it is about the Force that's bothering you. The Force, God, Tao, Void, or whatever you want to call It, are all One in the Same. I know a lot of people would disagree with that, who would rather separate everything into individual categories, but that's not how I see things. Everything, IMO, is One. All objects, all concepts, all divinity. Unity solves all problems. If you have a conflict in your mind about the Force or God—or any conflict for that matter—if you look at it from a perspective of Unity, the conflict will fall away. The Force, in other words, is greater than the words we use to describe It.

But before I continue, please let us know what is bothering you.

Pipotron V wrote: I group these together because they pretty much have the same belief systems except one uses different names.

I would disagree with that vehemently.

They are all anti RCC. No images, no occultism, no paganism.

I would also disagree with that vehemently.

So is anyone on here a Christian protestant Jedi?

There are many.

Anyone on here who doesn't believe in the force?

Honestly? Probably not. There are are at least as many definitions of "the Force" as there are Jedi in this Temple. And everyone I've met holds to at least one of them.

I've started writing my journals but have yet to publish them on here because some things are bothering me concerning the force and there are christian apologetics ministries that are attacking the Jedi way.

Take Yoda's conversation with Luke, replace every instance of "the Force" with "God" or "the power of Christ" or a mention of the third member of the trinity, and see how closely it mirrors Christian doctrine.

I don't see Jedi as a religion because there are no rituals, dogma, or belief in a deity or afterlife.

Belief in a deity does not make a religion a religion, and lack of a "deity" doesn't preclude it from being one. The belief in the Force (in the fiction) is either pantheistic or panentheistic, based on which individual Jedi from the fiction you ask. Those are both still types of religion. There is also dogma, just not in the way you're familiar to seeing it. There are many different individual beliefs on a Jedi afterlife, and we have scads of rituals, from past, present, and some to come in the future.

You're free to not treat Jediism as a religion. You can treat it as a philosophy if you want. That doesn't make it not a religion.