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18 Aug 2016 19:27 - 18 Aug 2016 19:27 #252879 by Snowy Aftermath

Adder wrote: Monthly Council Report - July 2016
Discussions and votes completed during July 2016, showing thread title only. All names and dates are removed for privacy.

30 Council discussion topics in July, 20 still ongoing and 10 finalized;

[Council] Changing of the Guard (XXXX for mod)
XXXX - XXXX (4th apprentice)
[Council] Member XXXX
[Council] XXXX for Knighthood
[CouncilSec] Forum Question
Moderation Clarification Discussion
[Council] - Report to Mod guidelines?
[Council] Kenya Pastor
Second apprentice for XXXX
Name Switch

Plus 1 Oath of Office. Feel free to PM me if you want a brief overview about any particular topic.


What is the point of posting this if it is almost literally all redacted or unintelligible?

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18 Aug 2016 19:38 #252881 by Atticus
That was the compromise between the confidentiality required for Council discussions and the transparency that was being demanded about Council business.

Thank you for continuing to post these, Adder.

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18 Aug 2016 19:45 #252883 by User22414

Snowy Aftermath wrote:

Adder wrote: Monthly Council Report - July 2016
Discussions and votes completed during July 2016, showing thread title only. All names and dates are removed for privacy.

30 Council discussion topics in July, 20 still ongoing and 10 finalized;

[Council] Changing of the Guard (XXXX for mod)
XXXX - XXXX (4th apprentice)
[Council] Member XXXX
[Council] XXXX for Knighthood
[CouncilSec] Forum Question
Moderation Clarification Discussion
[Council] - Report to Mod guidelines?
[Council] Kenya Pastor
Second apprentice for XXXX
Name Switch

Plus 1 Oath of Office. Feel free to PM me if you want a brief overview about any particular topic.


What is the point of posting this if it is almost literally all redacted or unintelligible?


Because i have a right to privacy , if you think you have a right to more information you can write to the council , this compromise is above and beyond what the council owes us ...imo

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18 Aug 2016 19:57 #252888 by Zephyrus
I'm not sure they owe us anything, but we (as a membership) did ask for it. And, they were so kind as to oblige.

I think, Snowy, that you can ask for more information on a subject in the privacy of a PM, if you're inclined.

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18 Aug 2016 20:59 #252900 by Snowy Aftermath
It just seems like a waste of effort. It's certainly not any kind of transparent.

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18 Aug 2016 21:05 #252901 by Rosalyn J
I find it helpful. I've just pm'd Adder regarding one of the topics.

What would you like to be different?

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18 Aug 2016 21:26 #252906 by Snowy Aftermath

Rosalyn J wrote: I find it helpful. I've just pm'd Adder regarding one of the topics.

What would you like to be different?


I guess a full sentence instead of one or two words would help.

for instance,

Changing of the Guard (XXXX for mod)
XXXX - XXXX (4th apprentice)


makes sense, but:

Member XXXX

could mean anything. Are we banning a member? Discussing why they can't seem to get the forum to work? Talking about what color they dyed their hair? ANY more information would be helpful. I don't even know enough from what is posted to know if I even want to ask about it. I might if what was expressed was a little more informative.

I don't understand why the council has to be so secretive anyway. Sure take out names and important facts, but give us some shade of actual information if you're even going to bother pretending to tell us something.

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18 Aug 2016 21:44 #252910 by Akkarin
People seem to think we discuss plans to conquer the world #embellishment. We don't. Council is administration, this is the type of stuff we administrate. You don't need to know more details.

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18 Aug 2016 21:57 - 18 Aug 2016 21:59 #252915 by Snowy Aftermath

Akkarin wrote: People seem to think we discuss plans to conquer the world #embellishment. We don't. Council is administration, this is the type of stuff we administrate. You don't need to know more details.


This isn't about what you guys think we need to know though. This was about clarity and transparency, if I remember correctly.

The effort in that direction is actually appreciated. I'm just saying, the clarity could be a little more clear. That's all.

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18 Aug 2016 23:53 - 19 Aug 2016 00:03 #252940 by Rosalyn J
Hey Akkarin,

Since you are here, what would be the harm in simply removing information that is private (such as name) and simply turning each point into a sentence?

For example,

In the point about the Nigerian pastor, could we instead say:

-Nigerian pastor was directed to the FAQ's and Temple doctrine for further information


I'm not saying that is what happened, its just an example.

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