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Br. John wrote: What about this?
Lucasfilm is Pissed About These Amy Schumer Star Wars Photos
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It doesn't actually say if Lucas Arts intend to do anything about the photos, other than complain a bit, perhaps they can't.
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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/18333717059/insanity-copyright-law-when-even-professionals-have-no-idea-theyre-breaking-law.shtml
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/04/08/copyrightbroken
http://works.bepress.com/dennis_karjala/3/
http://www.economist.com/node/15868004
there is more to the issue than "youre cheating artists by breaking copyright law"
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Br. John wrote: What about this?
Lucasfilm is Pissed About These Amy Schumer Star Wars Photos
http://io9.com/lucasfilm-is-pissed-about-these-amy-schumer-star-wars-p-1718655777
It doesn't actually say if Lucas Arts intend to do anything about the photos, other than complain a bit, perhaps they can't.
should they be able to do anything about the pictures?
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Edan wrote:
Br. John wrote: What about this?
Lucasfilm is Pissed About These Amy Schumer Star Wars Photos
http://io9.com/lucasfilm-is-pissed-about-these-amy-schumer-star-wars-p-1718655777
It doesn't actually say if Lucas Arts intend to do anything about the photos, other than complain a bit, perhaps they can't.
should they be able to do anything about the pictures?
That's not an argument I wish to get involved in... would rather keep my opinions to myself on this topic.
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Br. John wrote: What about this?
Lucasfilm is Pissed About These Amy Schumer Star Wars Photos
http://io9.com/lucasfilm-is-pissed-about-these-amy-schumer-star-wars-p-1718655777
I honestly don't understand what the point is, aren't parody and satire supposed to make a statement or critique of the original work? Or do I have my terminology wrong?
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Keladry wrote: I am curious since we are discussing copyright here what you guys think of the legal gray area surrounding transformative works such as fanfiction for which the authors of the fanfiction receive no money ?
Fanfiction can actually be very damaging to an author's work. Many writers refuse to allow it for that reason, and many who do allow it can't read it for legal reasons. For example, there have been instances where fanfiction strikes terribly close to the plot of a work-in-progress by an established author. George RR Martin discusses the case of Marion Zimmer Bradley:
GRRM wrote: MZB had been an author who not only allowed fan fiction based on her Darkover series, but actively encouraged it... even read and critiqued the stories of her fans. All was happiness and joy, until one day she encountered in one such fan story an idea similar to one she was using in her current Darkover novel-in-progress. MZB wrote to the fan, explained the situation, even offered a token payment and an acknowledgement in the book. The fan replied that she wanted full co-authorship of said book, and half the money, or she would sue. MZB scrapped the novel instead, rather than risk a lawsuit. She also stopped encouraging and reading fan fiction, and wrote an account of this incident for the SFWA FORUM to warn other writers of the potential pitfalls of same.
Not only that, but why aren't you writing your own stories?
And then there's the monetary issue:
GRRM wrote: Okay, it was one incident a long time ago, you may say. Fair enough. Let me bring up a couple other writers, then. Contemporaries of an earlier age, each of whom was known by a set of initials: ERB and HPL. ERB created Tarzan and John Carter of Mars. HPL created Cthulhu and his Mythos. ERB, and later his estate, was extremely protective of his creations. Try to use Tarzan, or even an ape man who was suspiciously similar to Tarzan, without his/ their permission, and their lawyers would famously descend on you like a ton of bricks. HPL was the complete opposite. The Cthulhu Mythos soon turned into one of our genres first shared worlds. HPL encouraged writer friends like Robert Bloch and Clark Ashton Smith to borrow elements from his Cuthulhu Mythos, and to add elements as well, which HPL himself would borrow in turn. And in time, other writers who were NOT friends of HPL also began to write Cthulhu Mythos stories, which continues to this day.
Fair enough. Two writers, two different decisions.
Thing is, ERB died a millionaire many times over, living on a gigantic ranch in a town that was named Tarzana after his creation. HPL lived and died in genteel poverty, and some biographers have suggested that poor diet brought on by poverty may have hastened his death. HPL was a far more beloved figure amongst other writers, but love will only get you so far. Sometimes it's nice to be able to have a steak too. The Burroughs estate was paid handsomely for every Tarzan movie ever made, and collected plenty on the PRINCESS OF MARS movie I worked on during my Hollywood years, and no doubt is still collecting on the one currently in development... though the book is in the public domain by now. Did the Lovecraft estate make a penny off THE DUNWICH HORROR movie, the HERBERT WEST, REANIMATOR movie, the recent DAGON movie, the internet version of CALL OF CTHULHU? I don't know. I rather doubt it. If they did, I'll betcha it was just chump change. Meanwhile, new writers go right on mining the Cthulhu mythos, writing new stories and novels.
As a final thought, here are my personal feelings on the matter .
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Connor L. wrote: I believe satire would. But, parody is more just making fun of or looking at the subject in a humorous/light manner. No statement required.
I think satire and parody both fall under fair use provisions, more often than not, as the fair use clause is intended (by the spirit of the law) to promote critique without appropriating the work itself, and both satire and parody are methods of critique.
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so fanfics is one of the areas i have preference over
the legality or morality of writing stories inspired by other peoples stories is totally outside the realm of my concern
my imagination is turned on according to its own rules and i do what the voices in my head tell me to do
ive also written a couple jedi stories with characters of my own invention as well as many of the familiars
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