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IP Q and A
5 years 8 months ago #319141
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Dear Kit,
What are the policies on IP submission?
I feel if there are some, we should know.
What are the policies on IP submission?
I feel if there are some, we should know.
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5 years 8 months ago #319142
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Policies on submission itself? Or how we check things? The submission is simply the Novice going to one of the POCs and saying "I'm done". Then the checking process is started. I can lay that out if you'd like
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Twigga wrote: Dear Kit,
What are the policies on IP submission?
I feel if there are some, we should know.
Policies on submission itself? Or how we check things? The submission is simply the Novice going to one of the POCs and saying "I'm done". Then the checking process is started. I can lay that out if you'd like

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5 years 8 months ago #319144
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I would love you to lay out the checking process! Yes please Kit! ... Oh and a PoC is a point of contact? And that'd be Adhara for seniors and... I dunno who for Minors...
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5 years 8 months ago #319146
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Eep sorry! PoC is Point of Contact. Adhara and Madhatter are both the POCs for journals. I think the Youth Officers might be for our youth.
When one of the POCs gets the message, they make a new thread in a special section of the Knight's Forum for IP Checking and title it "(Name) Journal Needing Checked"
This is what's posted:
Any Knight who is available will read their way through the Novice's journal and reply back to the thread with something like this:
New IP Checking Guide
Lesson 0 : Temple Structure Complete
Lesson 1 : Myth
Part 1 – The Hero’s Adventure-Complete
Part 2 – The Message of the Myth-Complete
Part 3 – The First Storytellers- Complete (wow I loved this one!)
Part 4 – Sacrifice and Bliss-complete
Part 5 – Love and the Goddess-I need to see a little more on this one. Only a few sentances and I'm not sure the material was gone through
Part 6 – Masks of Eternity-Complete: short but acceptable
Bonus :
J. Campbell – The Mythology of Star Wars
The World of Joseph Campbell
Lesson 2 : The Self
Alan Watts – The Book : On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are -compmlete
Lesson 3 : Meditation
Alan Watts – Meditation-Complete (well done!)
or
Jiddu Krishnamurti: The Beginning of Meditation
Lesson 4 : Connections
Fritjof Capra – Mindwalk/The Turning Point -Complete
or
Lynne McTaggart – The Field
Lesson 5 : Temple Doctrine
Exercise 1 : The Three Tenets-complete (great insights!)
Exercise 2 : The Code-complete
Exercise 3 : The Creed- Missing
Exercise 4 : The 16 Teachings-complete
Exercise 5 : The 21 Maxims- Missing 1, 13, and 16 otherwise complete
Bonus :
Exercise : The Knights’ Code
Lesson 6 : World Religions
Part 1 – Abrahamism-complete
Part 2 – Atheism-complete
Part 3 – Buddhism-nicely done! compelte!
Part 4 – Hinduism-complete
Part 5 – Paganism-needs expantion
Bonuses :
J. Kornfield – Beginner’s Guide to Buddhism
S. Hastings, P. Rosenberg – God Wants You Dead
Lesson 7 : Personal Tools
Exercise 1 : Listening-citation missing
Exercise 2 : Semantics-complete
Exercise 3 : Etiquette-complete
Exercise 4 : Didactics-complete
Lesson 8 : Jediism Essays
Essay 1 : Thesis, Antithesis & Synthesis -complete
Essay 2 : Free Will-complete excelent work on this one! He's thought long about it!
Essay 3 : Trials & Tribulations- this one is awesome too!!
Essay 4 : Jediism to You-complete
Essay 5 : The Force-complete
Essay 6 : The Force & Jediism-complete
Essay 7 : A Healthy Body & Mind-complete
Essay 8 : “Cult”, the Word-complete
Essay 9 : Letting Go of the Past-complete
Essay 10 : The Sword-complete
Overall an enjoyable read! I sent the following message to him:
(insert message about where things arae missing or need fleshing out, usually add points that were well done)
The Novice has as much time as they wish to complete the pieces that the Knight had described. Once they are done, the Knight then checks the new posts and posts in the IP checking thread that it was done to their satisfaction. At that time, a second Knight will review and either approve or bring up points that the first Knight may have missed.
It's also checked that their journal was started over 60 days ago.
Plagerism is usually checked by the IP Team while the Novice is still doing the Journal. But since they're short on Jedipower at the moment, it doesn't happen sometimes until the journal checking process. but here's how we do it:
we also utilize web resources like https://searchenginereports.net/plagiarism-checker and they return with a percentage that the text is original or copied and what websites it's from. I do remember (but I can't find where) Madhatter said that if the matching percentage is at 20% or lower, he'll remind the Novice to utilize quotes and citations.
We do not consider quoting the doctrine as plagerism. In that section we'd be looking only at the replies to the lines.
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Twigga wrote: I would love you to lay out the checking process! Yes please Kit! ... Oh and a PoC is a point of contact? And that'd be Adhara for seniors and... I dunno who for Minors...
Eep sorry! PoC is Point of Contact. Adhara and Madhatter are both the POCs for journals. I think the Youth Officers might be for our youth.
When one of the POCs gets the message, they make a new thread in a special section of the Knight's Forum for IP Checking and title it "(Name) Journal Needing Checked"
This is what's posted:
spoiler for brevity
(Name) has Completed the IP
Profile (link)
Journal (link)
IP start: date
Please remember if you find something that needs to be fleshed out or redone post what that was here as well as letting the Novice know.
New IP Checking Guide
Lesson 0 : Temple Structure
Lesson 1 : Myth
Part 1 – The Hero’s Adventure
Part 2 – The Message of the Myth
Part 3 – The First Storytellers
Part 4 – Sacrifice and Bliss
Part 5 – Love and the Goddess
Part 6 – Masks of Eternity
Bonus :
J. Campbell – The Mythology of Star Wars
The World of Joseph Campbell
Lesson 2 : The Self
Alan Watts – The Book : On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are
Lesson 3 : Meditation
Alan Watts – Meditation
or
Jiddu Krishnamurti: The Beginning of Meditation
Lesson 4 : Connections
Fritjof Capra – Mindwalk/The Turning Point
or
Lynne McTaggart – The Field
Lesson 5 : Temple Doctrine
Exercise 1 : The Three Tenets
Exercise 2 : The Code
Exercise 3 : The Creed
Exercise 4 : The 16 Teachings
Exercise 5 : The 21 Maxims
Bonus :
Exercise : The Knights’ Code
Lesson 6 : World Religions
Part 1 – Abrahamism
Part 2 – Atheism
Part 3 – Buddhism
Part 4 – Hinduism
Part 5 – Paganism
Bonuses :
J. Kornfield – Beginner’s Guide to Buddhism
S. Hastings, P. Rosenberg – God Wants You Dead
Lesson 7 : Personal Tools
Exercise 1 : Listening
Exercise 2 : Semantics
Exercise 3 : Etiquette
Exercise 4 : Didactics
Lesson 8 : Jediism Essays
Essay 1 : Thesis, Antithesis & Synthesis
Essay 2 : Free Will
Essay 3 : Trials & Tribulations
Essay 4 : Jediism to You
Essay 5 : The Force
Essay 6 : The Force & Jediism
Essay 7 : A Healthy Body & Mind
Essay 8 : “Cult”, the Word
Essay 9 : Letting Go of the Past
Essay 10 : The Sword
Simple Oath: (link if applicable)
Profile (link)
Journal (link)
IP start: date
Please remember if you find something that needs to be fleshed out or redone post what that was here as well as letting the Novice know.
New IP Checking Guide
Lesson 0 : Temple Structure
Lesson 1 : Myth
Part 1 – The Hero’s Adventure
Part 2 – The Message of the Myth
Part 3 – The First Storytellers
Part 4 – Sacrifice and Bliss
Part 5 – Love and the Goddess
Part 6 – Masks of Eternity
Bonus :
J. Campbell – The Mythology of Star Wars
The World of Joseph Campbell
Lesson 2 : The Self
Alan Watts – The Book : On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are
Lesson 3 : Meditation
Alan Watts – Meditation
or
Jiddu Krishnamurti: The Beginning of Meditation
Lesson 4 : Connections
Fritjof Capra – Mindwalk/The Turning Point
or
Lynne McTaggart – The Field
Lesson 5 : Temple Doctrine
Exercise 1 : The Three Tenets
Exercise 2 : The Code
Exercise 3 : The Creed
Exercise 4 : The 16 Teachings
Exercise 5 : The 21 Maxims
Bonus :
Exercise : The Knights’ Code
Lesson 6 : World Religions
Part 1 – Abrahamism
Part 2 – Atheism
Part 3 – Buddhism
Part 4 – Hinduism
Part 5 – Paganism
Bonuses :
J. Kornfield – Beginner’s Guide to Buddhism
S. Hastings, P. Rosenberg – God Wants You Dead
Lesson 7 : Personal Tools
Exercise 1 : Listening
Exercise 2 : Semantics
Exercise 3 : Etiquette
Exercise 4 : Didactics
Lesson 8 : Jediism Essays
Essay 1 : Thesis, Antithesis & Synthesis
Essay 2 : Free Will
Essay 3 : Trials & Tribulations
Essay 4 : Jediism to You
Essay 5 : The Force
Essay 6 : The Force & Jediism
Essay 7 : A Healthy Body & Mind
Essay 8 : “Cult”, the Word
Essay 9 : Letting Go of the Past
Essay 10 : The Sword
Simple Oath: (link if applicable)
Any Knight who is available will read their way through the Novice's journal and reply back to the thread with something like this:
Spoiler for brevity
New IP Checking Guide
Lesson 0 : Temple Structure Complete
Lesson 1 : Myth
Part 1 – The Hero’s Adventure-Complete
Part 2 – The Message of the Myth-Complete
Part 3 – The First Storytellers- Complete (wow I loved this one!)
Part 4 – Sacrifice and Bliss-complete
Part 5 – Love and the Goddess-I need to see a little more on this one. Only a few sentances and I'm not sure the material was gone through
Part 6 – Masks of Eternity-Complete: short but acceptable
Bonus :
J. Campbell – The Mythology of Star Wars
The World of Joseph Campbell
Lesson 2 : The Self
Alan Watts – The Book : On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are -compmlete
Lesson 3 : Meditation
Alan Watts – Meditation-Complete (well done!)
or
Jiddu Krishnamurti: The Beginning of Meditation
Lesson 4 : Connections
Fritjof Capra – Mindwalk/The Turning Point -Complete
or
Lynne McTaggart – The Field
Lesson 5 : Temple Doctrine
Exercise 1 : The Three Tenets-complete (great insights!)
Exercise 2 : The Code-complete
Exercise 3 : The Creed- Missing
Exercise 4 : The 16 Teachings-complete
Exercise 5 : The 21 Maxims- Missing 1, 13, and 16 otherwise complete
Bonus :
Exercise : The Knights’ Code
Lesson 6 : World Religions
Part 1 – Abrahamism-complete
Part 2 – Atheism-complete
Part 3 – Buddhism-nicely done! compelte!
Part 4 – Hinduism-complete
Part 5 – Paganism-needs expantion
Bonuses :
J. Kornfield – Beginner’s Guide to Buddhism
S. Hastings, P. Rosenberg – God Wants You Dead
Lesson 7 : Personal Tools
Exercise 1 : Listening-citation missing
Exercise 2 : Semantics-complete
Exercise 3 : Etiquette-complete
Exercise 4 : Didactics-complete
Lesson 8 : Jediism Essays
Essay 1 : Thesis, Antithesis & Synthesis -complete
Essay 2 : Free Will-complete excelent work on this one! He's thought long about it!
Essay 3 : Trials & Tribulations- this one is awesome too!!
Essay 4 : Jediism to You-complete
Essay 5 : The Force-complete
Essay 6 : The Force & Jediism-complete
Essay 7 : A Healthy Body & Mind-complete
Essay 8 : “Cult”, the Word-complete
Essay 9 : Letting Go of the Past-complete
Essay 10 : The Sword-complete
Overall an enjoyable read! I sent the following message to him:
(insert message about where things arae missing or need fleshing out, usually add points that were well done)
The Novice has as much time as they wish to complete the pieces that the Knight had described. Once they are done, the Knight then checks the new posts and posts in the IP checking thread that it was done to their satisfaction. At that time, a second Knight will review and either approve or bring up points that the first Knight may have missed.
It's also checked that their journal was started over 60 days ago.
Plagerism is usually checked by the IP Team while the Novice is still doing the Journal. But since they're short on Jedipower at the moment, it doesn't happen sometimes until the journal checking process. but here's how we do it:
- Choose a journal entry at random (Do not test Lesson 0 (Temple Structure) those are fine as copy/paste)
- Highlight two or three sentences in a row, from anywhere in the post.
- In the top menu of TotJO click Forum then Search
- Paste the sentences into the keyword section
- Under the Search Options change the “Search for posts from ‘A Year Ago’ to ‘Any date’
- Click Search
- Additionally, please check Google or another search provider for at least five of your checks. When you do, place quotation marks around the quote (this will search only for that specific phrase exactly instead of using key words within your search)
we also utilize web resources like https://searchenginereports.net/plagiarism-checker and they return with a percentage that the text is original or copied and what websites it's from. I do remember (but I can't find where) Madhatter said that if the matching percentage is at 20% or lower, he'll remind the Novice to utilize quotes and citations.
We do not consider quoting the doctrine as plagerism. In that section we'd be looking only at the replies to the lines.
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5 years 8 months ago #319148
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Is the Initiate made aware of which Knights are checking their journal before they begin?
Is it possible for them to request an alternative reader if they feel uncomfortable with the judgements of a particular person being passed on their journal? (unfortunately, personality clashes do happen, and we are all human...)
Is it possible for them to request an alternative reader if they feel uncomfortable with the judgements of a particular person being passed on their journal? (unfortunately, personality clashes do happen, and we are all human...)
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