A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It

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04 Apr 2018 01:28 #320025 by Eleven
Because most meats a injected with Antibotics, steroids, and iodine and nitrates. When, consumption of these meats it makes Antibotics less or non effective. But, keep in mind I did read every last post.

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05 Apr 2018 02:46 #320073 by Manu

Akkarin wrote: One of the most straightforward ways of preventing the rise of antibiotic resistance crossing over from animals is to first reduce the amount of antibiotics used in the growth stages when manufacturing animals, and when antibiotics are used, keep the ones used separate from the ones used to treat humans.

Additionally, get yourself checked and wear protection.


And... avoid Asia?

You can eat all the grass fed beef you like, but if the person next to you has a superbug... the superbug just doesn't screen your eating habits before deciding you'd be a good host.

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05 Apr 2018 04:58 - 05 Apr 2018 04:58 #320076 by

Because most meats a injected with Antibotics, steroids, and iodine and nitrates. When, consumption of these meats it makes Antibotics less or non effective. But, keep in mind I did read every last post.


U.S. Food & Drug Administration. (2017, October 12). Steroid hormone implants used for growth in food-producing animals. Retrieved from U.S. Department of Health and Human Services website: https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/SafetyHealth/ProductSafetyInformation/ucm055436.htm

Haspel, T. (2015, February 23). Is grass-fed beef really better for you, the animal and the planet? Retrieved from the Washington Post website: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/is-grass-fed-beef-really-better-for-you-the-animal-and-the-planet/2015/02/23/92733524-b6d1-11e4-9423-f3d0a1ec335c_story.html?utm_term=.3421dd2f8797

It is pretty sick that the animals that most eat endure the atrocious living conditions that require them to get routine antibiotics. I'll concede to that. Organic isn't necessarily better, nor safer, though.
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05 Apr 2018 08:31 #320078 by

Luthien wrote: Organic isn't necessarily better, nor safer, though.


In the EU, though I can't speak for the safety of the food, the rules for organic are far stricter than even those for free-range classifications, necessitating much higher animal welfare. Further it's my understanding that many of the health concerns with animal manufacture are due to the squalid conditions they live in which foster bacterial infection hence the need for antibiotics, conditions which aren't present in organic farming models.

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06 Apr 2018 04:13 #320100 by

Akkarin wrote: ... many of the health concerns with animal manufacture are due to the squalid conditions they live in which foster bacterial infection hence the need for antibiotics, conditions which aren't present in organic farming models.


Indeed, that is what I touched upon, there, when I said, "... animals that most eat endure the atrocious living conditions that require them to get routine antibiotics." When it comes to organic vegetables, it is more dangerous since pesticides are still used (the organic kind) and at higher amounts. The pesticides in conventional farming are much safer. The term, "organic," is much more a marketing tactic to get you to buy one item over one that doesn't use it. Same goes for "non-GMO."

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07 Apr 2018 00:37 #320121 by Eleven
All I can say is I've been eating organic beef, grass fed butter and beef and I've never felt better. Anyone who's seen food Inc. Or any doc. On our food industry would know the animals in our country are treated horrible and live in horrible conditions. It made me almost go vegan at one point. But, if someone has a super germ chances are they aren't gonna tell you or even know some of them. In US, our food has so much gmos, chemicals, antibiotics in them who knows if you could consider it "food" anymore.

Our bodies consume the antibiotics from stuff like meat and when we get sick really bad our bodies don't react to the prescription pills the doctors prescribe and it gets worst even to the extreme of death. Say what you want, but I've done a lot of research on this...espically the fda and their sponsors.

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07 Apr 2018 05:17 #320127 by
Say what I want? Mkay. Just because you don't understand the science behind something, it doesn't mean that it's dangerous or bad for your health. I side with the scientific majority, here. The ones who actually know what they're talking about. If chemicals are so bad, stop breathing and drinking anything because it's all chemical. GMO foods are food. I understand the phobia of not wanting to take in antibiotics unnecessarily. Antibiotics are not good for our microbiomes. That's why prescription antibiotics are only given for a course of a certain amount of days. They destroy good gut bacteria along with the bad and leave room for the ones not killed off to flourish and make us sick. But, the antibiotics in the meat people eat are at safe enough levels to not be so dangerous. Eating meat is a choice, I'll give you that. Eating anything is a choice. Moral or not, if you care about your survival, you will eat. Otherwise, just starve yourself.

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07 Apr 2018 19:20 #320148 by Eleven
That was a out right immature response Luthien. I don't know what I am talking about? Ok, if you wanna look at science go look up some of these chemicals that are in your food seriously. Who, ever said I don't eat meat? I do. Now, your making a case against vegans? Lol... look at the toxicology, in most red meats, the carcinogens which is in cigarettes. Eating is a choice? Yes sir it is indeed. I am overweight, I am making positive changes in my personal life that works. I wasn't attacking those who do eat gmos, or processed foods. But, I find it was that people know of these things and still don't do anything about it. You gotta take care of your temple.

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07 Apr 2018 20:51 #320151 by Carlos.Martinez3
I once knew a man who chose notNOT to take medications and see doctors , you know what he died of? As he said he ran out of Time. Diets and the word diet often are synonymous with trends unfortunately. Some have stances and beliefs and some have diftent - practices and faiths - they don’t just revolve solely around religion. Can we as modern day Jedi live in a world where other people’s views are as valid as ours and deserve the same value and freedom as our own? Not just in religion... but in all things ... can we believe in the inherit worth of all or step on their sandcastles if they don’t look and are like ours? Hmmm
I myself don’t take the flu shot anymore after I got back from my last tour of war. Do I get sick - off and on. Do I eat meat - mmmmm on the grill or bbq pit I eat rich lobster and everything I like - in balance. I encourage all to ha e a balance in as much in their life’s as possible - here too. My pops ( not my biological) drinks windex when he’s sick. Works for him. I don’t. Some people soak in mud- goat poop- cow poop- buffalo poop- hot water cold water - this world is full of remedies and practices I don’t try myself. I may some day! Not sure about the pooo but I may have a leach or two some day on me .

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08 Apr 2018 00:04 #320156 by Eleven
:) @Carlos, I always appreciate you input on subjects. Very well said and your right.

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