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Peace exists, it is not a lie. There is not 'only passion' as at least one other thing exists, peace.Peace is a lie, there is only passion
Or do dumb dumb things that weaken youThrough passion, I gain strength.
Or do things other than the acquisition of power. You could munch on steroids all day with the only outcome being a long prison sentence. Not exactly a position of power.Through strength, I gain power.
Or not. the one thing all powerful people have in common is they eventually lose it.Through power, I gain victory.
What chains? The one you just put on your feet with all that passion? Or the one on that poor bloke's bike you just knicked?Through victory, my chains are broken.
You were part of the Force and free to begin with. You may as well avoid this designed-for-a-videogame code.The Force shall set me free.
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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I prefer the short version over the long. The ideas of the Jedi codes are contrasts, can knowledge be quantified without ignorance? Could we identify peace without emotion? etc. Not meaningless blanket statements.
You do realise this is a Jedi church, right? It's not the best place to ask this sort of questions, just like christian churches are not the best place to ask members if they have as many dismissive opinions of Jesus as they have of Satan. Maybe try some sith churches? I don't know if there are any but you could always give google a shot.
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ren wrote: You do realise this is a Jedi church, right? It's not the best place to ask this sort of questions, just like christian churches are not the best place to ask members if they have as many dismissive opinions of Jesus as they have of Satan. Maybe try some sith churches? I don't know if there are any but you could always give google a shot.
This type of dismissive replies is one of the reasons Christianity is losing adepts. When someone pops up with a genuine question, and gets answered with a coherent, genuine cross examination, curiosity is satisfied and truths are seen as evident due to a triumph of logic and understanding. On the other hand, when walls are put up or blanket statements issued to cement tribalism rather than engage in conversation, the original question remains unaddressed, and a schism is born.
You are free to consider the Sith code rubbish, it very well could be. However, I find it ironic that, for someone who supports the Jedi code, you would issue a response that comes across as emotional (rather than peaceful) and ignorant (rather than knowledgable).
The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
- William Arthur Ward
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What You and Connor do outside totjo is none of my concern. Go insult chistians in their church by asking them to criticize their saviour. Or, try your luck with the world's second largest faith (growing even faster) and ask them to criticize their prophet in their mosques... See where these 'genuine questions' get you?
Anyway, I feel just as smart and cold as ever, so you may want to look into where your feelings of irony come from as it certainly wasn't me.
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ren wrote:
What You and Connor do outside totjo is none of my concern. Go insult chistians in their church by asking them to criticize their saviour. Or, try your luck with the world's second largest faith (growing even faster) and ask them to criticize their prophet in their mosques... See where these 'genuine questions' get you?
I have been fortunate enough to know a few Catholic priests who loved addressing my questions, and took my curiosity as a good thing, rather than insult. I’ve found the more learned a person is, the more they tend to be open to criticism, while those quick to take offense are usually less studied and less aware, and thus more frightened of having their worldview challenged.
That background should tell you why I would assume that in a community that encourages the search for knowledge and the devolpement of emotional intelligence (self awareness), I would expect to find people open to discuss subjects rather than put up walls.
The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
- William Arthur Ward
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So, that's why I'm posting this here. If people want to engage, they can... If not, then leave the thread. It's that simple. yeh?
In the end, Sithism and Jediism are not opposites. And, both can learn from the other. Manu, for example, has studied both Sithism and Jediism simultaneously.
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Connor didn't citicize the Jedi code, he asked me if I could criticize it as much as the sith code, which of course I cannot, like every other follower of the jedi faith. Logic 101.
Why must you twist this conversation off-topic? I consider you assertion that I do not accept criticism a personal attack. I have not dismissed criticism as criticism hasn't been served. I simply stated the truth: jedi churches are not the best place to ask for crticism of jedi teachings, christian churches are not the best place to ask for criticism of jesus.
Asking a priest to criticize jesus is not quite the same thing as asking him questions about his faith, which is what you are compairing this discussion to, as if you were dealing with someone who's unaware of the manipulative techniques you are employing.
You are making some rather wild asssumptions and violating totjo's terms of use. Stop it.
Connor L. wrote: So, this whole process began because Rugadd asked if there were any Sith places to study here. I said no, and elizabeth suggested that might be useful. I decided that I know a thing or two about where to find the good Sith stuff, so I asked around if people would be interested in it. More than 5 people (which is a not-small percentage of the currently active population of TOTJO) have engaged with the idea.
So, that's why I'm posting this here. If people want to engage, they can... If not, then leave the thread. It's that simple. yeh?
In the end, Sithism and Jediism are not opposites. And, both can learn from the other. Manu, for example, has studied both Sithism and Jediism simultaneously.
I can tell he prefers one to the other.
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If you can't take a hard look at the fallibility of your own belief system, then how can you see it with any perspective?
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Like the food you choose to eat, the clothes you choose to wear, the people you choose to have relationships with, etc?
Criticizing your own beliefs is like criticizing your own taste for strawberries or your own love for your children. Not something I would classify as 'well adjusted' or 'psychologically healthy'.
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