Equal Protection for all Religion?

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31 Dec 2014 00:03 #175173 by Alethea Thompson
Should have just made it so that -no- religion could set a display. Problem solved.

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31 Dec 2014 00:16 #175174 by
That would certainly appease the atheist non-religious types, which I think would be good since I think religious people can forget that there are people out there with no gods and no religion.

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31 Dec 2014 01:31 #175179 by

While I support the freedom to believe in and practice whatever religion one chooses for themselves, I have a hard time understanding why people feel the need to express their religious beliefs in ways that are meant to insight trouble. Religion done properly should be highly personal.


That is exactly right. I maybe reading this article wrong however as I read it there is not satanic cult instead it was the atheist way of getting their pound of flesh. Further, it was not ok last year so they threatened legal action to get this displayed.

With that being said it is also problematic that the lady did not have enough distress tolerance to not attach anthers religious offering. In fact if the atheist were looking for attention then this lady sure seems to be the catalysis for that.

I absolutely agree with Senan that religion/spirituality when done well is highly personal and returns its practitioners to the eternal now.

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31 Dec 2014 05:49 - 31 Dec 2014 05:52 #175190 by Carlos.Martinez3
Another example of radicals lost to "their" own way of thinking and calling it holy.The real story to me is the battle for attention. Sadly they both got it but blemished both sides

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31 Dec 2014 06:25 - 31 Dec 2014 06:43 #175195 by

in particular many satanists are also atheists,

this is three times as humorous as christians celebrating christmas.

i would suggest that one who is a satanist and also an atheist that they should convert to the church of the flying spagehtti monster out of self respect(perhaps this is the problem) and to save a wee tiny bit face.

there has scarcely, if ever, been freedom of religion in the us. there may have been a vague resemblance of it in the late 1800's and early 1900's, but that was just a vague resemblance of it. sure there is more liberty than many other countries, but i'm not going to water down the word freedom.
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31 Dec 2014 11:43 #175208 by steamboat28
  1. This article makes it seem as though the satanist in question was trying to vandalize a pre-existing display. If that's the case, that's not freedom of religion, that's freedom to be an a**hole, which isn't guaranteed by any gov't document in the US, no matter how often we exercise it.
  2. Religious displays on public property should be available to everyone or no one, unless there is a compelling interest otherwise. A good example of a compelling interest is, for example, recognizing the very obvious role played in modern lawmaking
  3. Satanists have a reputation as a "shock" religion in the US because of LaVey's attitude both in print and interviews.
  4. Christmas is a truly Christian holiday when taken of itself. It's the additional pagan influences that make it curious, but given historical context these all make sense.[/li

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31 Dec 2014 13:47 #175210 by Gisteron
There is no lack of self-respect in the satanist movement. Not in general anyway. As steam pointed out, most of them, especially the atheist subset are shockers and contrarians. I have encountered a number of Sith with similar attitudes. There are also genuine Satan worshippers. Some of them are also contrarians much like the traditional LaVeyan satanists, some aren't. Especially in the US only a strict subset of atheists identify by that label, mainly because of the stigma it carries. However, among intellectual atheists many reject both Satanism and the FSM movement and prefer to not identify with either. There is nothing ignoble or shameful about any of those identities in general and on their own, though I would unkindly comment on the worship of Satan or of the FSM as actual beings any day. To say they ought to switch to any one particular because that is what a self-respecting person would do is exactly the kind of semi-religious slander all of those movements were created to combat in the first place.

Steam, you might have misread. It was a Christian lady who tried to vandalize a satanist display.

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31 Dec 2014 14:18 - 31 Dec 2014 14:20 #175212 by
there are few genuine christians, and even fewer genuine satanists. christmas never was a christian holiday. i am a contrarian in regard to people hijacking religions and just making whatever up, or simply blindly following and being told what to "think" and calling it by an existing name. that is the actual slander/blasphemy.
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31 Dec 2014 14:23 #175213 by Gisteron

ghost dog wrote: there are few genuine christians, and even fewer genuine satanists. christmas never was a christian holiday.

Source, please.

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31 Dec 2014 14:29 - 31 Dec 2014 14:50 #175214 by
there is no single source for any of these three facts. one would simply have to do the research and use the organ residing in the cranial cavity for it's intended purpose. where should i start with Christ Mas?

this is the purpose of most modern day religion - confusion and conflict. the purpose of mainstream modern day religion is to keep people from recognizing the face of the Divine, from coming to know themselves, and the Source(The Force).

if i can re-locate several good singular sources i will post them. however, i know one of them has already been taken off the internet.

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/comments/Apostasy%20in%20the%20Church.HTM

http://youtu.be/oZAL80TMLaE

in my opinion contarians have no place in authentic Satanism, and are an insult to the mythological Satan, or otherwise.

http://youtu.be/OxAo1vr-GWE


to protect genuine Satanist one would have to allow LaVeyin satanists and contrarian satanist to be laughed off the face of the Earth.
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