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19 Dec 2013 00:24 - 19 Dec 2013 00:26 #129553 by Adder
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It's one of the first questions I remember from being a young Catholic kid; how do we know what he looked like? I'm pretty sure I remember the Nun's saying no-one knows, and that the image/idol is not what is important, and that Jesus must be looked for within oneself. In this way statues were meant to remind, ie mnemonics, and not as literal accurate representations. In this context then I guess it would make sense to have local race Jesus's
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19 Dec 2013 01:17 #129559 by Llama Su
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Symbolism is an important aspect to culture...
In my opinion, Jesus was black, why did the cultures whitewash sculptures, etc.?
To reflect their ideology...

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19 Dec 2013 01:48 #129565 by
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sidvkili wrote:

Rickie The Grey wrote: Would the Cathloc Churches be any different today or have a different relationship with the other Middle East Faiths if the image of Christ reflected his DNA heritage?


ever heard of the eastern catholic church? They seem to...


Seem to what?....

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19 Dec 2013 03:20 #129579 by Llama Su
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The white image of Christ is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Borgia
http://www.actuarialoutpost.com/actuarial_discussion_forum/showthread.php?t=16991
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090720134325AAJW97X
http://www.israelite.net/image.htm

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19 Dec 2013 09:52 #129605 by
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Llama Su wrote: Symbolism is an important aspect to culture...
In my opinion, Jesus was black, why did the cultures whitewash sculptures, etc.?
To reflect their ideology...


he was born in bloody palestine to nazerines and raised in galilee

he wasn't white

he wasn't black

he was bloody arab!

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19 Dec 2013 09:57 #129606 by
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Adder wrote: It's one of the first questions I remember from being a young Catholic kid; how do we know what he looked like? I'm pretty sure I remember the Nun's saying no-one knows, and that the image/idol is not what is important, and that Jesus must be looked for within oneself. In this way statues were meant to remind, ie mnemonics, and not as literal accurate representations. In this context then I guess it would make sense to have local race Jesus's
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yeah but people definitely knew...

Jesus christ ( pun intended) we are looking at a middle eastern religion strictly through a western scope it seems... The eastern churches always portrayed something that seemed reminiscent in ICONS ( not images or idols... ICONS) he was middle eastern... arab nazarene... they could tell from Jesus christ's accent. The galileans were fairly easy to identify.. and any roman Christ met, knew he was a hebrew, an ARAB ( I know I'm stressing this... but he was either black or white, apparently... it's just hilarious to me). You knew if somebody came from that area. It's like here... you know if somebody is a scot. Their walk, their accent , skin colour etc etc.

Funny story, when Peter got accused later on, he starts swearing at all of them lol.

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20 Dec 2013 22:42 #129835 by
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You know, I'm an admitted and outspoken racist, and I don't have the preoccupation with race that the world seems to have. Not meaning to attack the OP, just getting that out.

Sid's right- the Eastern churches, some of them anyway, depict Christ as non-white. For instance, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church depicts him as black, and the Antiochian church depicts him as Arab. I believe the Egyptian Christians also depict him as an Arab. My belief is that the images of Jesus we see today are so old that they came from a time when people weren't likely to regularly encounter a person of another race, if at all. That's why the European Jesus is white, the Ethiopian Jesus is black, et cetera.

As for his actual race, I imagine he'd look like a modern-day Sephardi or Mizrahi Jew, as in, the ones that are native to the middle east, not the Ashkenazim that we are more familiar with, which look European. There's a theory that he was more European looking due to his Amorite heritage, but personally, Isa al-Masih is Isa al-Masih to me, no matter what race he was.

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20 Dec 2013 23:26 - 20 Dec 2013 23:27 #129838 by
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sidvkili wrote: You knew if somebody came from that area. It's like here... you know if somebody is a scot. Their walk, their accent , skin colour etc etc.


Jing's, crivvens an help m'boab laddie, whitiver gien yi thon idea?, ah mean it's nae like wir aw dain the highland fling doon thi road in wir kilts y'ken!.
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20 Dec 2013 23:41 #129839 by
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Leandros Von wrote:

sidvkili wrote: You knew if somebody came from that area. It's like here... you know if somebody is a scot. Their walk, their accent , skin colour etc etc.


Jing's, crivvens an help m'boab laddie, whitiver gien yi thon idea?, ah mean it's nae like wir aw dain the highland fling doon thi road in wir kilts y'ken!.


thankk ah'rve biin pruuvin wronng

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21 Dec 2013 01:17 #129842 by Llama Su
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The real Hebrew Israelites are black... Or are you saying Jesus was a Ashkenazi Jew??
Because you migrate somewhere, that destination does not change your origin...
"You can take the kid out the street, but you cannot take the street out the kid."
The real Jews left Israel, fake Jews arrived...
Can there not be black Arabs?
Arabs are dark skinned, too, no?

This is just speculation anyhow, opinion...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_appearance_of_Jesus

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