Sith and True Power?

Power is relative.

I believe in willpower.

I believe that there is power in acknowledging our flaws...and accepting them.

I believe that there is power in understanding.

But I also believe that power lies in wealth and influence. People who have the means to influence those around them certainly have a kind of power.

But power is a broad term, that encompasses many meanings, which take on special meanings for every individual.

I wouldn't get too caught up on the idea of power, and if you plan on pursuing training here, I certainly wouldn't get too hung up on other people's notions of power, either.

As for me, i'll take an indomitable will over influence of other people on a large scale any day.

Does the nurse really have power though, or just capability. I think the definition of power requires a capacity to exert controlling influence and not just a capacity to exert influence. Sure saving a life is a fantastically humane token of influence because it is juxtapositions with death - it sounds like your responsible for life over death and therefore powerful... but I think that is using emotions to distort the actual relationships between capability, authority and application of the action.

The nurse is doing what they are told as their work administrator has the power, and IMO it only becomes an expression of power by the nurse if they choose to defy that authority power and take their own decision to say do something else, eg kill someone instead of save them. That would then be an expression of power by the nurse, otherwise they are just doing the work for someone else and being compensated for it with money!?

Now perhaps for a Sith path the concept of power is in fact the emotion capability of the action, and in which case being a nurse and dealing with life and death might create a fantastic emotional connection within themselves to access some concept of 'true' power, but simple definitions can be more likely to mislead then enlighten IMO.

What Adder, that was powerful!

That is not a joke

Thoughtful
Thorough
Clear

Thank You!

Angelus, and what is the point or purpose of willpower or an indomitable will, if not to exert influence? Over yourself, others, etc?

Like having the will to say no to drugs for example.

Does the nurse really have power though, or just capability.I think the definition of power requires a capacity to exert controlling influence and not just a capacity to exert influence. Sure saving a life is a fantastically humane token of influence because it is juxtapositions with death - it sounds like your responsible for life over death and therefore powerful... but I think that is using emotions to distort the actual relationships between capability, authority and application of the action.

You think capability and capacity are mutually exclusive?

Lol, and this isnt a matter of being responsible for life over death. However, when someone codes, there dead unless I exert my influence, period. Precisely because I have the capability and capacity. Its a controlling influence no matter how you try to dance around the definition.

I do not have delusions of granduer, I have had people die on me too...

Which is why I am not claiming ultimate power, or power of life over death.

Yes, my administrator has power over me,hell, my child has a measure of power over me. However I am not talking about absolute power, just an ability to influence and effect/ change things and people within my sphere of influence. Again, using the definition to communicate exactly what it means.

However, if this conversation is going to degenerate into the TOTJO members trying to redefine a word either for arguments sake, or because they lack the vocabulary,knowledge, or life experience, to use the correct words for what they wish to communicate, id rather not insult my intelligence.

Double posted, sorry.

Mareeka wrote: Thoughtful
Thorough
Clear

Thank You!

A change from my usual you mean :lol:

Sometimes I don't understand what I am thinking about.... :whistle:

Lol . . .

First, "What" was supposed to be WOW, my error!

Next,

no . . i didn't mean a comparison to anything in the past.

Powerful, as in appropriately perfect to the topic and it moved me.

Maybe even the synthesis of many aspects presented in this thread . . . :dry:

Now that icon means . . . pondering to me!

Khaos wrote: Angelus, and what is the point or purpose of willpower or an indomitable will, if not to exert influence? Over yourself, others, etc?

I was asked for my opinion and I gave it. I merely stated my preference for influence over self above influence over others. I won't defend my beliefs, or the fact that I never contended the purpose or definition of willpower.

tesscortis wrote: I have been reading into the "Sith" philosophy trying to understand their view on things to see how they differ from my own.

I keep coming across the term Power. They talk of gaining true power and that it leads to victory etc.

Can someone help me understand? What is true power to a sith? What does a sith believe power is?

Sit smish we are all one. Live your life as you choose because......It's all Ying Yang baby, It's always about the Ying and the Yang!