Neigong Master John Chang

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14 Apr 2013 08:14 #103087 by ren
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Br. John wrote: Is this what y'all are talking about?

http://scienceofscams.com

4 minutes - making fire with powers - blood from nowhere - explained


thank you John

http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Jediism/102712-No-True-Jedi?limit=10&start=60#103059

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14 Apr 2013 09:08 #103094 by
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meditating helps you physically and spiritually. i meditate when i need to relax and focus. the TOTJO should have this.

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14 Apr 2013 12:26 #103104 by
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I'll just leave this here.

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14 Apr 2013 17:01 #103134 by
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Interesting back and forth between those two guys. I guess to really know for sure you'd have to test it for yourself.

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14 Apr 2013 17:04 #103136 by
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That's like saying of one guys claim of levitation, I need to test it myself frfom a 3 story building.

I don't think so.

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14 Apr 2013 17:08 - 14 Apr 2013 17:09 #103138 by
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No it isn't.

Say someone did claim to be able to levitate. There's no reason you couldn't stand on the floor and try it for yourself.

What I'm trying to say is that for everything there's two sides. Someone who believes and someone who doesn't. You take both into consideration and decide for yourself. After all, there are many people who would say the Jedi beliefs, ideas, and even this site is a bunch of nonsensical garbage. Does that mean I have to immediately disown the Jedi ideas?
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14 Apr 2013 17:11 #103139 by
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I have numerous studies published in reputable journals, if anyone cares to examine them. Feel free to send me a pm if interested.

Wendaline wrote: No it isn't.

Say someone did claim to be able to levitate. There's no reason you couldn't stand on the floor and try it for yourself.

What I'm trying to say is that for everything there's two sides. Someone who believes and someone who doesn't. You take both into consideration and decide for yourself. After all, there are many people who would say the Jedi beliefs, ideas, and even this site is a bunch of nonsensical garbage. Does that mean I have to immediately disown the Jedi ideas?

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14 Apr 2013 17:13 #103140 by ren
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feel free to post them here.

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14 Apr 2013 17:15 #103141 by
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ren wrote: feel free to post them here.


I will not be able to defend them without causing a community wide argument and debate, this is something best done in private unless you want a 400 page debate on your hands with the whole community up in arms over it.

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14 Apr 2013 17:20 - 14 Apr 2013 17:21 #103142 by
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maynoth wrote: I will not be able to defend them without causing a community wide argument and debate, this is something best done in private unless you want a 400 page debate on your hands with the whole community up in arms over it.


No offense Maynoth but everything you've shared with me has hardly been that dramatic to cause an uproar, I don't see any problem with the "400 page debate" after all what's to stop Ren or anyone else from "posting" what you share in private?

I think that's a good idea...the constant discussion in PM is a negative idea as it can be seen as a "divide and conquer" technique.
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