Neigong Master John Chang

I have numerous studies published in reputable journals, if anyone cares to examine them. Feel free to send me a pm if interested.

Wendaline wrote: No it isn't.

Say someone did claim to be able to levitate. There's no reason you couldn't stand on the floor and try it for yourself.

What I'm trying to say is that for everything there's two sides. Someone who believes and someone who doesn't. You take both into consideration and decide for yourself. After all, there are many people who would say the Jedi beliefs, ideas, and even this site is a bunch of nonsensical garbage. Does that mean I have to immediately disown the Jedi ideas?

feel free to post them here.

ren wrote: feel free to post them here.

I will not be able to defend them without causing a community wide argument and debate, this is something best done in private unless you want a 400 page debate on your hands with the whole community up in arms over it.

maynoth wrote: I will not be able to defend them without causing a community wide argument and debate, this is something best done in private unless you want a 400 page debate on your hands with the whole community up in arms over it.

No offense Maynoth but everything you've shared with me has hardly been that dramatic to cause an uproar, I don't see any problem with the "400 page debate" after all what's to stop Ren or anyone else from "posting" what you share in private?

I think that's a good idea...the constant discussion in PM is a negative idea as it can be seen as a "divide and conquer" technique.

Desolous wrote: That's like saying of one guys claim of levitation, I need to test it myself frfom a 3 story building.

I don't think so.

Nothing about testing this out for yourself requires you put yourself in danger.

Well perhaps danger of changing your worldview and paradigms, but nothing else.

I'm sure we can manage. What we don't like are condescending people and personal attacks.

Metsu Desal wrote:

maynoth wrote: I will not be able to defend them without causing a community wide argument and debate, this is something best done in private unless you want a 400 page debate on your hands with the whole community up in arms over it.

No offence Maynoth but everything you've shared with me has hardly been that dramatic to cause an uproar, I don't see any problem with the "400 page debate" after all what's to stop Ren or anyone else from "posting" what you share in private? I think that's a good idea...

I'd hope they wouldn't as usually I ask people to keep it private for this reason.

Most people I discuss this with refuse to examine any of the evidence anyway and just TLDR it.

He has a point, lol..

I hate trying to have a one on one discussion publiclly...

Too many others chime in, causing detailing, and multiple angles of attack...

It is hard to defend when there are multiple angles of attack, not impossible, but harder...

Makeca post, go to bed, 3 pages of stuff to go through and respond....

Then, right after you click submit, there's 4 more...

Its why I stay outta the big threads... and few read?every post, lol...

Part of Maynoths problem, forgive me Maynoth, is he takes every opportunity to spout off about it...

Its sorta like the words in our signatures, just gloss over them...

o offense Maynoth but everything you've shared with me has hardly been that dramatic to cause an uproar, I don't see any problem with the "400 page debate" after all what's to stop Ren or anyone else from "posting" what you share in private?

As a person who has burned, and been burned, by Private Messages being brought public, I hope this doesn't happen...

maynoth wrote: I have numerous studies published in reputable journals, if anyone cares to examine them. Feel free to send me a pm if interested.

Wendaline wrote: No it isn't.

Say someone did claim to be able to levitate. There's no reason you couldn't stand on the floor and try it for yourself.

What I'm trying to say is that for everything there's two sides. Someone who believes and someone who doesn't. You take both into consideration and decide for yourself. After all, there are many people who would say the Jedi beliefs, ideas, and even this site is a bunch of nonsensical garbage. Does that mean I have to immediately disown the Jedi ideas?

Yes it is. Did you watch the video provided in the link that was under discussion one of the claims was that chang placed his hand in front of a rifle and stopped a fired bullet. Another is that he caught a bullet shard in his mouth.

There are some logic and death defying claims made in the video and elsewhere. Mankind was given logic and reason for a purpose: so that we don't feel the need to entertain these notions just because someone else is so dead set on them. That is their own perogative, as I have my own.