I think i may be going over to the dark side

help please?
i feel anger, and i know that anger leads to hate and ultimatley suffering.
guide me

i also feel anger ........ almost like the dark side is calling

what can we do?
should we block it out or give in?
it feels so tempting, i have already let my anger get the better of me.
i dont know what to do, i wish to seek tranquility but i fear there is none for me

Blocking and giving in are not the only choices.

Step 1: Defocus. Acknowledge the anger, and move on.
Step 2: Thank yourself for the opportunity to be aware of your surroundings.
Step 3: If it doesn't work, use the \"meditation\" MP3 on the front page.

Anger is something we're all familiar with. It's when anger takes control that you're really in danger of living in the Dark. Lighten your mood, make a joke out of whatever's pissing you off, and just get over it.

but the dark side does it really exist?
i have only heard rumors, yet i feel its pull

All things have a duality: hot and cold, light and dark, up and down, Jedi and Sith... this doesn't mean that these are the only options, but surely if good and evil exist in all living things, light and dark can exist in the Force.

But having a moment of darkness doesn't make one a part of the Dark Side any more than a moment of lightness makes one a part of the Light Side.

You might want to go through the lessons on the Front Page. And remember: real Shaolin monks don't run across the tops of bamboo leaves without disturbing them any more than real Jedi lift space fighters out of swamps.

red heron i know this might sound odd.
but can you teach me to move objects with the force already?

Many of us here dont believe in a dark side of the force

or a light side - or a pink, red, blue green, yellow etc etc etc etc

The force is the force.

Now you may have 'dark' thoughts, wants, needs desires etc - and trust me - we all do at some point - its a part of being a human. 'darkside' is intentionally doing bad things - or allowing your temper to get the better of you and you hurt someone - but its also possible to act out light things for dark intentions (flattery can be one of these) or you may need to do a dark thing to get a light end - eg the old saying ' the truth hurts'

now to really confuse you - what you may think of as a good light act maybe a dark act to someone else

but to keep it real simple - knowingly and intentionally doing bad things is 'darkside' aka wrong

The force is the force whatever you do - and yes you can 'use' the force to do bad things like wise good things (light or dark) but the force remains what it is - its YOU and your actions/deeds/intentions that are light or dark

But as we all know - life is rarely as simple as black n white (or light n dark)

At the end of the day - if you give in easily to darker things - you really will find it addictive - and one day - youll wake up with a whole heap of regrets and quite probably - have done things you cant make up for to those you hurt

and in all honesty - the person you really hurt the most is yourself

If youve come here to learn how to shoot lightning from your finger or raise your x-wing from the pond - sorry to disappoint you - but you wont find that here - or a schematic for a working lightsaber (and yoda was fired last week )

MTFBWY - A

master kana is right...the only light or dark is in the human psyche....the force is simply the energy of life, it doesn't care if something is light or dark because all are necessary...

the only true light or dark resides within each of us and it's a matter of perspective. as he said what one person views as being light someone else will view as dark. likewise sometimes something dark has to be done for light results and vice-versa

it's our intentions that determine the desired result.

Inside of you there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil.
The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all of the
time.

One dog wins. The one you feed.

seanc wrote:

red heron i know this might sound odd.
but can you teach me to move objects with the force already?

http://gizmodo.com/5125905/star-wars-force-trainer-uses-mind-bullets-to-move-ball-through-chute

That's the first step and then you go from there. Let us know how you do.

RyuJin wrote:

master kana is right...the only light or dark is in the human psyche....the force is simply the energy of life, it doesn't care if something is light or dark because all are necessary...

the only true light or dark resides within each of us and it's a matter of perspective. as he said what one person views as being light someone else will view as dark. likewise sometimes something dark has to be done for light results and vice-versa

it's our intentions that determine the desired result.

True up to a point. The result is also determined by the view, real needs and situation of the recipient as well. Sometimes we can do some real damage through well ment actions.

That is where the second line of our code comes in, concerning Knowledge.

Like the old saying
\"the road to hell is paved with good intentions\"

The \"dark side\" is for one, not nearly dramatic as you make it sound, and for another is not evil and certainly nothing to be feared. It is a respectable choice, and it has little to do with the cinematic Sith. You feel anger, congratulation, you're human. Only you can choose your path.

Why worry about it? If you are determined to live the life of a Jedi, should your focus not be more aligned with your training than whether or not you are susceptible to the \"dark side\"?

Maintaining your focus on training will lead you to the answers you seek. It might even lead you away from the Jedi Path and onto a new journey. Only \"the Force\"/God can give you the answers you seek. And only YOU can choose which street you feel will benefit you.

It has already been said in here a couple of times. But in different ways. Here it is yet again...

Life is Life. Neither Good nor Bad, Yet, is both Good and Bad.

The good or evil we see around us is a matter of perception.

To use the Star Wars movies to illustrate:
-Do you think Vader and the Emperor set out to be \"Evil\"?
-Was Luke evil to want to take revenge on Vader for Kenobi's and his 'father's' deaths?
-Is Leia evil for wanting to kill Vader and the Emporer?

Vader and the Emporer thought the people were not smart enough to rule through democracy.

As is the way of thinking for a lot of those who would conquer.

Did Hitler think he was evil? Gunga Din? Napolean? Bin Laden? Mr. Smith in the Matrix? Alexander the Great? The list goes on...

Is America evil? (Not in my view at all, but in this great country it is ok to post such a sentence for a discussion...)

There are countries in the world where 'We' are thought to be evil.

I will venture to say (my own opinion, not necessarliy the point of view of this website or it's admin or users), this country has probably made some blunders. But I do not think that (would like to believe that), anyone set out to do wrong in a grand scale. (and maybe my optimism blinds me... I do not know)

I basically see the good (I'm very optimstic). Even though I've had a little bad done to me now and then. And I've done my share of the spreading of hate and discontent (in my youth).

In my middle strech of life, I would like to think that I've had enough experiance to learn from my mistakes, and those of others.

I continue to hope that this is the case.....

you could see it as there are 2 main types of evil...perceived evil and true evil...

perceived evil is the most common and is based purely on point of view. with this what appears evil to one is not to another...

true evil is much more rare and is a natural tendency that occurs without reason. there have been very few instances of true evil...those that are truly evil not only know what they are doing is wrong but do so anyway just for the pleasure they get from it. they do evil with no psychological disorders that would normally be associated.

From my perspective, there is most certainly a Dark Side to the Force... as is the case with all living things. This is how I view it, since I oppose the idea that the Force has no Dark Side:

Everything in the universe has a creative capacity (to which we assign the name \"Light Side\") and a destructive capacity (to which we assign the name \"Dark Side\"). Operating entirely on the Dark Side is impossible, just as is operating entirely on the Light Side. One's capacity for creative functions (life, healing, etc.) is equaled only by one's capacity for destructive functions (death, injury, etc.). But using one side or the other doesn't mean you *are* that side. What determines your \"side\" is your intent, your focus, and your ability to choose. If you consistently choose the easy path of destruction and injury before you try to fix things, you are operating on the Dark Side. If you consistently choose the path of selfish interests over those of giving, then that is most certainly operating on the Dark Side. One cannot operate without choosing these things from time to time--both are needed for growth.

A stone has a Light Side (the capacity to be used for constructing a house, a wall, or as the anchor for soil deposits to create a hill), and a Dark Side (the capacity to be used as a weapon, or to fall off a cliff and kill someone, etc.). The stone is not good or evil; it is, however, Light and Dark. Just as the Force is. And so what's evil?

Evil is to choose self over others, where such a choice is not entirely necessary for survival. It is this selfishness which is the real evil. Selfishness comes from focusing on the negative emotions until you're so wrapped up in them that they take control. It is living in the way of destructive intent and self-interest which excludes the possibility of allowing others to meet their own needs. We all have evil within us. The only thing that's required to eliminate evil in the world is to choose which one to feed.

Evil is survival of the self at the expense of the entire species.

And there are no absolutes: no absolute good, no absolute evil. It's all a matter of degrees... just like Light and Dark. Just like wet and dry. Just like any other \"opposing\" ideas out there. They exist, certainly; denial of them doesn't negate their existence, as both are necessary for balance.

Again, this is just my own view, and not \"canon\" or anything. But it's such a strong conviction that I felt the need to say something.

The Force is a neutral entity, one thats use is determined by the user. It's a matter of the person, not the Force.

Well put.