Can you have a relationship with someone and still be a jedi

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21 Sep 2019 23:48 #343823 by Rex
What I said was "you should know to do it. That doesn't mean it's easy or that you know how to do it" (which I stand behind)

I'm genuinely not trying to be hostile. People make decisions based on how they prioritize things (whether or not they're conscious of it). I just genuinely think if you read the FAQ, it would be helpful. I don't think you're retarded.

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22 Sep 2019 07:47 #343824 by JamesSand
It would seem we're off to a rocky start, I'm not inclined to guess why or attempt to establish blame.

As far as it goes Fyxe, we're the lot of us a rambunctious group, but I would say on the whole not many of us are mean, or filled with intent to deliberately lead you astray.

That said, we generate more than our fair share of misunderstandings, so certainly seek clarification on any given point or statement, but I would shy away from immediately assessing anything as explicitly hostile.
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22 Sep 2019 21:05 #343833 by Eleven
Simply put I see no problem with it as long as it’s not abusive relationship.

We do not follow a code much like the films. It’s similar in ways but in others not so. This is your journey, your universe, what you bring or don’t is up to you no one else.

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22 Sep 2019 21:20 #343834 by

Rex wrote:
If you want help with the IP, pm me and I'll assign you to someone.



I was just told by rex in PM that I dont get to ask for this even though he said in public to ask him? I'm not sure I get this place???

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22 Sep 2019 23:11 - 22 Sep 2019 23:52 #343837 by Adder

Chastity of the body may be miserliness of the spirit. ~ Kahlil Gibran


Said every addict ever! Be it love, lust, or mentation..... until it over takes them and all that is left is to try and survive. As an addiction requires one to view the body as a tool for their experience, to justify its abuse. The survivors realize they need to respect the integration of body and mind more seriously, and learn to delay gratification. But some forced habituation is more sustainable then others, even healthy in some contexts. It doesn't have to be black and white. Black and white is like a blaster, a clumsy and random weapon :D

So I'd say the are four spaces around the three pillars; embodiement of (Force) focus enacts knowledge to embed wisdom into extension of self into ones environment. Non-Jedi might focus on self as a type of wisdom and use knowledge to shape that selfish focus to extend themselves out as gratify and reinforce their own identity, and it's this approach which might occur with a close partner relationship... where your preference for the object of attachment shapes your focus, rather then a shared focus to the Force. Being as long as the relationship has basis of focus and the motives overlap then it might survive. But their might be a natural tendency to expedient means, so while even the ideal pairing will probably have testing pressures straining it from time to time, I think most people usually just grasp at things they want and swing at things they don't want.

And I think 'love' in the quoted context is the romantic nuclear attachment, the ideal of it which weddings seems to promise. But more pragmatically those relationships takes a huge range of potential different forms, and seems to be more accurate to view them as partnerships with negotiation of functional relations. The problem with that unromantic view is it ignores many parts of the human experience, and I think things like cultures of family serve as rituals and paradigms to create a platform for these things to be enabled into experience. This is where it might be said to be incompatible, for if a Jedi path is closer communion with the Force, then a marriage could be closer communion with each other. So in that thinking the best outcome for a Jedi would probably be to hook up with another Jedi, lol. Then there is the issue of kids, so even in that idealistic version it would be a distraction from ones own embodiement of the Force even if it were not extending their connection (via attachment) through family. So I'd say it really is only a limit in the fiction, because its not like any of us really live monastic or ascetic levels of focus in reality. Fun topic, yet a bit distracted?

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23 Sep 2019 00:26 #343841 by Rex

Fyxe wrote:

Rex wrote:
If you want help with the IP, pm me and I'll assign you to someone.



I was just told by rex in PM that I dont get to ask for this even though he said in public to ask him? I'm not sure I get this place???


What I said was that IP Team availability is based on the members' commitment, so you asking for someone in particular doesn't do anything. At this point, you're just looking for a fight, and I'm not about to be baited into it. I'll do my job (and most likely end up checking your journal) regardless of what animus you have for me

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23 Sep 2019 04:13 #343846 by steamboat28
Avoiding "attachments" is not the same as avoiding relationships. Jedi avoid attachments because they don't like to allow anything to override their control of their self. People who avoid relationships are just afraid of them.
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23 Sep 2019 17:42 #343855 by For-Emris
Some people, because of love, commit crimes. Actions that harm others. "Go crazy" because of jealousy.
If the Jedi controls himself, and does not allow emotions prevail over mind - he has the right to a relationship.

Love is a manifestation of the Force that unites all living creatures ...
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23 Sep 2019 20:17 #343858 by
Well my original comment (before being interrupted) was about this very thing. Can you have a relationship that you can control? It takes two or more right? so you cant control others.. so how do you stop the conflict? I think I want to be a true Jedi and not have any relationships any more. :angry:

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23 Sep 2019 20:33 #343859 by Kohadre

Fyxe wrote: Well my original comment (before being interrupted) was about this very thing. Can you have a relationship that you can control? It takes two or more right? so you cant control others.. so how do you stop the conflict? I think I want to be a true Jedi and not have any relationships any more. :angry:


I admire the resolve to want to become a "true" Jedi, however I think there may be a few things you are overlooking.

Do you remember in the first movie; A New Hope, when the "wise" Obi-wan Kenobi takes Luke to what was essentially a hitman bar? How about afterwards, when he left Luke alone in the mix?

Do you remember the scene where, just about Luke is about to get into a bar fight; Obi-wan preemptively cut's a mans arm clean off?

I'll leave a reference link below as to why Jedi are not the saints commonly thought of. I hope you'll read it and take away a few of the failures the fictional Jedi order made, as lessons to improve upon within your own path.

15 Reasons Why The Jedi Are Bad Guys

So long and thanks for all the fish
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