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4 years 1 month ago #344608
by Alethea Thompson
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Anyone had a chance to pull out the proposed document and look more closely at it? ^^
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Alethea Thompson wrote: Anyone had a chance to pull out the proposed document and look more closely at it? ^^
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4 years 1 month ago #344659
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What is the proposed/ potential fruit of changing the doctrine?
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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #344661
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I dont know if this is answering your question in the way that you meant it when you asked but my understanding from what ive seen so far is that 1) this isnt an effort to change the doctrine, only to streamline it. And 2) the benefits are an increase in clarity and a reduction of redundancy.
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If im wrong, could someone please explain how/why i’m wrong and If im correct, could someone please explain how/why im correct?
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If im wrong, could someone please explain how/why i’m wrong and If im correct, could someone please explain how/why im correct?
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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #344664
by Rosalyn J
Replied by Rosalyn J on topic ATTN: COUNCIL; Updated Doctrine Proposal
What will the streamlining/reduction of redundancy do?
To be clear, I have read the document. I'm glad there is more than one voice in the process. I think there has been a good crack at it. It does read a bit simple and so in some ways loses a bit of the "mystery" and a bit of the uncovering that needs to happen with successive reading/studying. But it is possible to recover that as long as we treat it with a bit of reverance
Im aware of the "organizational" reasoning for streamling IE building an IP that helps focus members on the central tenants of Jediism.
What will be the fruit of the focus then for the student
To be clear, I have read the document. I'm glad there is more than one voice in the process. I think there has been a good crack at it. It does read a bit simple and so in some ways loses a bit of the "mystery" and a bit of the uncovering that needs to happen with successive reading/studying. But it is possible to recover that as long as we treat it with a bit of reverance
Im aware of the "organizational" reasoning for streamling IE building an IP that helps focus members on the central tenants of Jediism.
What will be the fruit of the focus then for the student
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4 years 1 month ago #344690
by Alethea Thompson
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I’m curious about the statement “It does read a bit simple and so in some ways loses a bit of the ‘mystery’ and a bit of the uncovering that needs to happen with successive reading/studying”
I’ve never felt that either of the 2 documents added a “mystery” factor to the Jedi Path. The practically non-definition of the Force did, but the documents were more about how to move within the Force. As a 2 document -system- I think it speaks less to mystery. More, it seems to speak towards insistence with redundancy, and in seemingly (keyword) minor contradictions indecisiveness.
By streamlining, I think it actually opens more doors to explore the mystery unencumbered. Two of the most important mysteries of Jediism, in my opinion, is:
1) The Force
2) Our individual role within the Force
In the doctrine the Force is made it’s own mystery that we are meant to explore. But we explore that with our very lives. The rest of the doctrine explains how we should explore it- but the mystery of how each principle/tenet/pillar fits into ourselves or how we can learn to manifest it is the greatest mystery of all. Having direction on what we should be looking for would be fulfilled by the doctrine, and introduction on how to begin looking covered by the IP.
I’ve never felt that either of the 2 documents added a “mystery” factor to the Jedi Path. The practically non-definition of the Force did, but the documents were more about how to move within the Force. As a 2 document -system- I think it speaks less to mystery. More, it seems to speak towards insistence with redundancy, and in seemingly (keyword) minor contradictions indecisiveness.
By streamlining, I think it actually opens more doors to explore the mystery unencumbered. Two of the most important mysteries of Jediism, in my opinion, is:
1) The Force
2) Our individual role within the Force
In the doctrine the Force is made it’s own mystery that we are meant to explore. But we explore that with our very lives. The rest of the doctrine explains how we should explore it- but the mystery of how each principle/tenet/pillar fits into ourselves or how we can learn to manifest it is the greatest mystery of all. Having direction on what we should be looking for would be fulfilled by the doctrine, and introduction on how to begin looking covered by the IP.
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