Physical TOTJO Temple in Texas Project

There are many things fighting against the idea, and what happens I'd it sounds like we are hanging up....

Take your proposal of west Texas, who is going to man it? Move there to maintain it?

It can't just sit empty, with the keys 3-4 hours away...

The progression will most likely be:

We will grow more dense, then we will have get togethers in parks, halls, and homes more and more frequently...

Then we will seek a existing building to rent, SOMEDAY, we will get there, but not soon, and this isxwhy the thoughts die...

At this juncture, owning land, even if given to us, where we have any kind of expense like the taxes, is difficult...

We still are not able to support the website on donations...

Its a long rroad, and there needs to be a progression...

We can't jump from learning to crawl to flying to the moon without the progressive growth...

As far as I see it, any kind of physical facility like this is typically only necessary and needed under the condition that there are a certain amount of population in the local area who all need it for official business purposes, whatever that may be.

If you can find several dozen+ people all in one town who have the time and money and official need for it, then that's where it would start. Otherwise, and until then, the presence of TOTJO is and will remain quite acceptably ubiquitous. As long as the scenario in the above paragraph is not currently the case, I don't personally see any necessity for an official location. Are we like a strictly defined corporation or are we a natural, global presence secure enough about ourselves to not have to need an official location to "represent us"? Are we a static business or are we an inspirational idea? Should we have our own single location(s) or should we appreciate any and every location in which we already preside? Just some questions that I ask myself when these kinds of threads appear.

As far as a place for things like processing paperwork go, if you'd like to consider that, then you could say Br. John's house is the "official office" of the church.

Akkarin wrote: What would we use it for? Other than just having a Temple?

We could put our weeed in there.


Isn't land in TX cheap because it's a drought, it's hot, there's no water, fracking is everywhere, etc?

But I believe the intiation of a physical temple would cause more members.
Consider the factors that influence whether someone is to join TOTJO:
Is this idea genuine?
Is there a large enough group of people invested into it?
Is expending my time towards this worth it?

The last factor is something that is just as important as the rest. You need to provide people with a sense of structure or a sense of reliability. That's what religion is about. Without something set in stone that will last through time people will be averse to it. We need a real sense of unity.

I do not think it is ready yet, but in a year or two this idea needs to get serious. And at that point if you are upset that there is a temple in texas and not your area, eventually we will reach to you. Be patient.

Forgive me if I don't agree.

The need for a physical temple is an illusion of our limited minds. We "feel" something, a connection, to a physical place. But, in reality, proximity is nothing compared to the Force. The Living Force will guide us to a site when the time comes. Please, I implore you to be patient.

Who's going to the annual US Jedi gathering this year? How about the one in Europe?

Ironically, I'll be in Europe when the US one is going on. And, I'll be in the USA when the European one goes on! Otherwise, I'd make both. hahah.

Next year, in 2015, we'll have it in Colorado with Jackie and the IJRS people hosting. :D:D So, get ready for that!

Connor, please keep me up to date on the Colorado gathering. I will be able to make it if I haven't used all my vacation on something else.

Thanks!

Rest assured, I will make the rounds as the time comes. And, Kitsu will as well.

First of all I wanted to point out that the year is infact 2557 or 2014 or 1435, depending upon one's geographic location. Secondly, if you want to create unity you could make a pact between members, like... guard a temple, and then put a time capsule in the temple. The time capsule would be opened in the future some time, like... 50 years, and anybody can put stuff in there if they contribute to the temple in some way. This gives you the following scenario:
1. A physical temple with significant value both spiritually and personally.
2. An activity which creates unity.
3. An activity which has "a future" in it for everyone.
4. Something which is "genuine".
5. Something which a large group can "invest", or put something into.
6. Something worthy(what could be more valuable than sending a message to yourself in the future?).