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12 Sep 2007 08:20 #6965 by Neaj Pa Bol
\"Rules for the Forum\"


I have been sitting here, thinking of what \"Rules for the Forum\" means to me. I am one that likes things simplified and not so stricked you don't have breathing room to be human, so I will use and old phrase...
Keep it simple stupid...

1) This forum is open to all and any to post, read and maybe ponder in thought.

2) Posts should be of a positive nature, i.e.: pose a question, pose a thought, open discussion without bias.

3) THERE WILL BE NO BASHING OR ATTACKING POSTS OR MEMBERS OR MEMBERS BELIEFS OR CHOICES.

4) Topic is Christian Jedi, this is each persons own beliefs, understandings, thoughts, questions, etc., with polite and kind responses.

5) This forum is designed for members that follow a Christian standard in conjunction with Jediism.


I would expect that our members that come here will uphold good faith in posting. All members are welcome to join in. This is just a space for those who wish to have discussions and thoughts in their chosen path of Christianity inconjunction with Jediism.

Revision of these \"Rules for the Forum\" maybe updated as needed.

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28 Sep 2007 11:28 #7666 by
I understand this Forum to be a christian Jedi forum. I also see that the other rites are Buddhist, Wiccan, Pure Land, and Sith. If one were a muslim Jedi or Jewish Jedi, would these groups be lumped in with CHristian in this forum? I would tend to think it so because the three Abrahamic religions,(Muslim, Christian, Jewish) are monotheistic, therefore basically very similar. Also I cant really see jewish or muslim going into any other forum. Any thoughts on this?

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28 Sep 2007 12:54 #7667 by Jon
That`s a really good question. Just to clear something, the rite which you described as being Wiccan is in actual fact Pagan which includes a whole array of spiritualities.

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28 Sep 2007 16:26 #7669 by
We, to my knowledge, have not had that question come up before. It's something that I will bring up and talk to Tom about. I don't think it would be right to lump those of Jewish or Muslim beliefs in with Christians as they are not Christians. We'll see what gets worked out.

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28 Sep 2007 16:48 #7671 by
As Jon had said,\" Just to clear something, the rite which you described as being Wiccan is in actual fact Pagan which includes a whole array of spiritualities.\"

I was thinking that the five rites were the main rites to lesser beliefs. For example, wicca could be classified under Pagan, and jewish and islam could be under christian. I was raised a muslim, but I wouldn't mind at all being considered a christian Jedi, seeing that Christian Jedi is closer to Islam than the other rites listed.

Anyway, glad to spark new conversations.

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28 Sep 2007 16:50 #7672 by
Almost forgot. I really like the original five rites as five rites and not six or seven. I hope that having five rites do not change.

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28 Sep 2007 17:10 #7673 by
Well, maybe we'll just have to adapt the Christian rite a little then...lol.

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28 Sep 2007 18:23 #7675 by Jon
Considering that their only common denominator lies in the early part of the Old Testament; that Christianity is even considered by some as a splinter group of the Hebrew faith... to consider Islamic or Hebrew expression of faith under the title of Christian rite as being very questionable. In our public work, as a Temple, I am sure this will be a cause for great discussion and may be conflict.

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28 Sep 2007 23:57 #7681 by
Maybe we could rename it the \"Monolithic Rite\", lol. They all do have the common factor of believing in just one god. Just have to toss a definition/explaination into the mix so folks know what it is.

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29 Sep 2007 05:08 #7687 by Neaj Pa Bol
Justice wrote:

Maybe we could rename it the \"Monolithic Rite\", lol. They all do have the common factor of believing in just one god. Just have to toss a definition/explaination into the mix so folks know what it is.



Interesting subject, but I would like some imput if we have members of the Jewish or Muslim faith to help in this discussion. We just may need to have additional rites for them if they wish to not be so closely related to Christianity or maybe a sub-rites under a main title to cover all three that can come to an agreement of Monolithic or another name....

Definitely need to chew Tom's ear a bit when he gets back....

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29 Sep 2007 08:35 #7691 by Jon
Since Christians (a lot of) believe that Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Father are God their picture of that one God is Trinitarian. The Hebrews are very cautious even to give a name to their God etc. Would a title monotlitic be just?

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29 Sep 2007 08:39 #7692 by Jon
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Neaj Pa Bol wrote:

Justice wrote:

Maybe we could rename it the \"Monolithic Rite\", lol. They all do have the common factor of believing in just one god. Just have to toss a definition/explaination into the mix so folks know what it is.



Interesting subject, but I would like some imput if we have members of the Jewish or Muslim faith to help in this discussion. We just may need to have additional rites for them if they wish to not be so closely related to Christianity or maybe a sub-rites under a main title to cover all three that can come to an agreement of Monolithic or another name....

Definitely need to chew Tom's ear a bit when he gets back....


The situation is better justified if additional compensatory rites were introduced.

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29 Sep 2007 18:02 #7699 by
Well, the trinity is just three identities of one God. So I think Mono would still fit.

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29 Sep 2007 19:04 #7701 by Jon
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Well, the trinity is just three identities of one God. So I think Mono would still fit.


They are actually three seperate persons.

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29 Sep 2007 19:14 #7702 by Jon
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Sorry about going on about this but I feel it is important to understand, and it has been a point of conflict for centuries. In Christian Theology we have God as being three distinct persons in one Substance. In Judaism and Islam there is only one Person and that is God.

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29 Sep 2007 21:03 #7704 by
I understand that. But the 3 seperate \"persons\" make the one God. In modern Christianity, you will be hard pressed to find someone to say they actually worship the three seperatly. They will say they worship the 3-in-1 and refer to him as the one true God, just like the Jews and Muslims do. I know in the Baptist sect of Christianity that I grew up in and was training to be a minister in from the time I was 16 til 21, God the father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit were referred to seperatly, but worshiped as one. They hold to the holy trinity, but under one name and that the name of God. Don't get me wrong, I completely see and grasp your point about Judaism and Islam.

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01 Oct 2007 11:35 #7744 by
As a jedi who grew up a muslim, I would not mind it one bit to be in the same category as a christian or jew. It is the point that the three religions worship one deity, trinity or whatever. Maybe we could rename the rites from Christian to monotheism, Buddhist to Esoterica, Wicca to magick, and the pure land and Sith would remain the same name. Even if my name change suggestions don't fit, at least I feel my point was made concerning the renaming regardless of what the rites are actually renamed to.

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01 Oct 2007 15:56 #7753 by
Yeah, I have to agree with Sekhu_Ba_Ra ... I do think it is very confusing in the naming of the different rites and as well a bit separating ... although still we are all jedi, aren't we ?

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01 Oct 2007 16:18 #7754 by Jon
I can really appreciate this, and after all we are all Jedi. I actually feel fine with the things as they are. But we have to remember that our Temple has a public character. Imagine having to negotiate with a Muslim or Jew and telling them that we consider their faith to be a part of the Christian Rite.

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Jon wrote:

I can really appreciate this, and after all we are all Jedi. I actually feel fine with the things as they are. But we have to remember that our Temple has a public character. Imagine having to negotiate with a Muslim or Jew and telling them that we consider their faith to be a part of the Christian Rite.


It would actually be more accurate to put it as \"The Abrahamic Rite\" since they are all Abrahamic religions. However, there is no need to make changes to these simply because of words. Semantics is not something which need be worried about.

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