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Biblical Witchcraft/Sorcery that was commanded by "God" - understanding biblical contradictions
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God commanded sorcery - even a sorcery contest - An Egyptian pissing contest
http://biblehub.com/exodus/7-12.htm
Aaron's Staff Becomes a Serpent
"…11Then Pharaoh also called for the wise men and the sorcerers, and they also, the magicians of Egypt, did the same with their secret arts. 12For each one threw down his staff and they turned into serpents. But Aaron's staff swallowed up their staffs. 13Yet Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had said."
the God of the Bible blesses those who curse
http://biblehub.com/2_kings/2-24.htm
Elisha Mocked
23Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" 24When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25He went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/religion/magic.htm
i also would like to submit the numerous times that the God of the Bible commands his followers to sacrifice humans. more than once he commands people to sacrifice their own family members.
if this can be explained away by my misunderstanding of the Bible, and proven that there are no contradictions in the Bible then I'd love to learn. I'm comfortable with my understanding of the Bible and it's contradictions. So this is not a challenge or an Egyptian pissing contest. The Bible is and always has been one of my favorite books.
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"Evil is always possible. And goodness is eternally difficult."
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i saw others posted questions that remained unanswered on the same and similar topics, i am re-approaching the subject to broaden my own understanding, and hopefully help others as well.
the purpose is to promote discussion, preferably non egotistical intercourse, but if some can't repress their desire to be drawn into an Egyptian pissing contest that could be amusing as well.
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on the other hand if someone has a better understanding or is aware of intentional mistranslations of the text then that would help my understanding.
i believe that there were intentional mistranslations, omissions, and additions, but I rarely see these discussed.
i also have mixed feelings on where the world is heading, i'm torn on what to think about it, coming to grips with certain things would also help me to focus on grounding. then again there is the saying and ones like it "if you want to help the world, the key is to showing people how to live in it." nonetheless, people with a lot of air in their cosmological make up like myself can benefit from further discussion, understanding and meditation on such subjects
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As in later books spiritism is shunned as the work of the devil.
On human and non human sacrifices I'd suggest you read the bible further, and it may help you to understand why they were originally used and weren't further along in the bible. The Christian Greek scriptures may help you here.
I don't think it's a waste of time to study the bible, if that's what you want but I would stress maybe not just reading parts and thinking you know cause there is much more information, and keeping an open mind.
Everything is belief
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my problem is probably that my mind is too open.
would you care to share your thoughts or feelings on why this is?As in later books spiritism is shunned as the work of the devil.
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ghost dog wrote: my problem is probably that my mind is too open.
I don't think anybody would fault you for having too open a mind.. if even one's mind can be 'too' open
"Evil is always possible. And goodness is eternally difficult."
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Not really no. Read it and make up your own mind.
Everything is belief
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While I'm at it, I'd like to point out that if you are an open-minded person, you will quickly find that books usually are rather short and that it is without exception always a wiser choice to rely on what reality dictates instead. Those of us who are not trying to live by a holy text never struggle with any of the problems all of them have. Of course, we have other worries, living in a world that is so bad at keeping us alive and well, to say nothing of all those who wish us ill in the meantime... Whether magic is good or evil in the eyes of the ceiling cat, however, is really, really not one of those worries.
Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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These are not, when taken entirely in context, contradictions. People who assume contradictions of this nature (and not simply the sort that arise from differences in post-factual eyewitness accounts) need to look closely at where they believe the misunderstanding lies. More often than not these seeming contradictions are actually exceptions that prove the rule rather than simple oversights.
Not that anybody ever listens the other fifteen thousand times I have this conversation in a month.
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Ps: The never say do magic.. He said to that and that. Like toMoïse he just throw the staff without the abracabra and he eat the others one. Open the river and the flow took pharao. Walk with reality and been raped by God like Enoch, Elia, Jesus, even Bouddha I think.
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