Define God

In my book this is the best I've seen. Alanis says it so much better than I so ... and I hope you can download the song. It's 9MB. Right Click and Save As ....

Artist: Alanis Morissette
Song: Still

I am the harm which you inflict
I am your brilliance and frustration
I'm the nuclear bombs if they're to hit
I'm your immaturity and your indignance

I am your misfits and your praised
I am your doubt and your conviction

I am your charity and your rape
I am your grasping and expectation

I see you averting your glances
I see you cheering on the war
I see you ignoring your children
And I love you still
And I love you still

I am your joy and your regret
I am your fury and your elation
I am your yearning and your sweat
I am your faithless and your religion

I see you altering history
I see you abusing the land
I see you and your selective amnesia
And I love you still
And I love you still

I am your tragedy and your fortune
I am your crisis and delight
I am your profits and your prophets
I am your art, I am your bytes
I am your death and your decisions
I am your passion and your plights
I am your sickness and convalescence
I am your weapons and your light

I see you holding your grudges
I see you gunning them down
I see you silencing your sisters
And I love you still
And I love you (still)
I see you lie to your country
I see you forcing them out
I see you blaming each other
And I love you still
I love you still

(I see you)

http://TempleOfTheJediOrder.org/jedi_library/15-alanis_morissette-still_(from_the_dogma_soundtrack).mp3

I try not to define god. Takes away from the mystery it does. It's my opinion that this world we live in now could use a renewed sense of wonder and awe when they view nature and the force of creation in action that made everything we're connected to. All in my opinion of course.

~Merin~

LOL, i guess i am in the exact opposite opinion which is probably why i have been tried so many religions. I feel that the only way to trully believe in something is to break it down to its core, figure it out if you will. Which is why i like the idea of The Force/Tao so much. They can be proven if you want to consider some of the scientific finds we have discovered to be a partial explanation for our (or my) beliefs. Well there you go, lol. Sounds hardly like something to be taken with faith huh? lol

i like the Tachikoma's definition of god.
\"God seems to be like a Zero in math its non existent but still there\"

I remember once during a debate on the existence of God a Rabbi said, \"God is so great he does not even need to exist.\"



Br. John+

right. what did i say?

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I can find no better comparison to God than my daughter: she makes me smile, worry, angry, hope, laugh, wonder... ; she gives me a hug, I can give her a hug; she is small and frail but strong and full of potential; teaches me about myself; she belongs to me but not for keeps, one day I will have to let go... . What more could one want? I would say God is always just enough.

God could be a description of what a person worships souly. Like there are gods and goddesses. I would define god as proverbial being representing a specific idol. People also seem to use god as a generic term to describe other religions' creators.

True, i have done much studying since i replied to this post and i have learned much in the few short months. God is the essense of creation that we seem to need a label for, as such we have numberous labels and titles for the same essence that created all things. Some are numberous, other singular. And as for some they do not need a human or idol to know the deity exists, in the case of Kami of Shinto, they need to image of their deity's because all forms are temporary so even if a Kami choose to be in human form they will not be so for long. Many deities have taken forms other then what we would like to view them as. Look at Jesus, i do not wish to insult anyone, he was a temporary vessel for God, well some believe he was God and other just the mere son of God but that is neither here nor there. So it is now my belief that God is all and none at all times and is in all things, out of all things, and threw all things at all time. Whether God is sentient or not is beyond this humble creator of God's creation, but there are a great many coincidences that would leave one to believe that there is a master plan. I choose to call my God by a wide variety of names of which the Force and the Tao is at the head, all other names are different parts or 'being' within the energy of which it is easier for one to tap into for spiritual workings and these would be considered Deities of any name of a deity i need at that time. These are my current thoughts on God.
MTFBWY

Many deities have taken forms other then what we would like to view them as.

These may include any number of Animals who the deities have associated with throughout history. And some even believe some may have been alien but that is getting off topic.

I don't know how to edit so here is what i ment to say, lol.

Everything and nothing.

\"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.\"
-Douglas Adams

my little thought, is god is the hope and dreams of what you're daughter can do for you, the world and all of us in it. as goes for everyone. i think god is truth the fine word of it. MTFBWYA

I have thougth of God as being what ever it is that you want God too be. God is what ever you consider to be the explanatio for things. For scientists, maths is God, for Christians God is the creater, and for us, Jedi, I would think of the Force as God.
God is just a word that can be associated with what ever we want to associate it with.

I once knew a man who said: \"Truth is not something you see with your eyes, it is not something you hear in someone's voice, and it is not something you can reach out and touch, but it is something that you feel within your heart, because while senses can be decieving, the spirit will never lie.\"
And that's kind of how I define God. But in a way, you can see God. He's in all of us. He's in our hearts and minds, in our everyday lives With each good deed we do, God is with us. Through our trials, God is with us. He is there to guide and protect us. He loves us always. No matter what we do, or where we go. He is with us.

I like this topic..

My priest once said, as I'm sure many priests have said...God is in everything, God is everything.

Guess my nature made me take this literally. I deduced that if God fits this statement, then we in fact ARE god. As are the trees the clouds, and the gas and planets...suppose its the whole \"stardust\" matter.

In essence, God would be the sum of all the parts - and we are included into it.

Jyn

Jyn_Osiris wrote:

I like this topic..

My priest once said, as I'm sure many priests have said...God is in everything, God is everything.

Guess my nature made me take this literally. I deduced that if God fits this statement, then we in fact ARE god. As are the trees the clouds, and the gas and planets...suppose its the whole \"stardust\" matter.

In essence, God would be the sum of all the parts - and we are included into it.

Jyn

I can relate to that, although the christian culture with which I grew up in would label this as pantheiism and unacceptable. I suppose pagans would relate to this more.

You are wise Sister, you are wise...

If you want to ask where the flowers come from, even the gods of spring don’t know.

GOd is the creator of all things larg n small. He watches over us, knows us and guides us through everything. God is the unseen creator, even though we cant see him, hes there no matter what.