More then ever, this world needs a Jedi

Link: This is exactly why we need Jedi in this world. A new type of crusader who protects the innocence and does not abuse their power. From the tragic beating and death at the hands of the Police Dept. in Fullerton CA to this. Something has to change with our Para-Military style police training. This is not a war, we are not the enemy. If we truly live in a country that prides itself on our freedoms of expression thought and speech then this cannot stand.

I must apologize, for I did not watch this video link...

MY PC is old, and locks up when I try to watch videos, heck, it just paused, then caught up in the middle of the word videos...

But, I am going to comment on the overall feeling about brutality in the "Peacekeepers"...

I am of the opinion that it becomes less every day, people are watching... In the 50's and 60's, it was worsse than now I think, and before that it was worse than then...

The difference is coverage, we have much better coverage than then... People are watching and reporting on incedents of this...

If they reported the positive stories, I am willing to bet that they would vastly outnumber the negative...

Not that these things should just be dismissed with a, "Oh, it's ok, the good is outweighing the bad, it'll be fine" wave of the hand either...

But, in the interest of balance, we should acknowledge good news as well... For it is out there, just not as sensational...

Jarrod Slocum
Feris Jones
Marcus O’Shields

I just like balance...

I think the news should do the same... lol...

It would be interesting to see the difference if a network news organisation ran 2 seperate channels of the same type but with one running only good news stories and the other only running bad news stories!!

Or, one good story, one bad story, one good, one bad...:laugh:

Ha! If there were a channel that only showed good news it would get the lowest ratings in the world. Americans love drama and good news is not that. Now this particular case will probably be viewed by millions where as anything good might get a few thousand, if that. We are a sick nation with a lot of sick people. If you want proof, type funny videos into youtube and I will bet that majority of those you see will be of someone getting hurt.

As an optimist, I hope it is simply a case of "ooo, that sucks!!"...

People think that they have it rough, so, they watch, or listen to some poor schmuck getting hit in the nuts, bashed in the head, or some similar comedy/tragedy.....

Misery loves company they say....

I personally go out of my way to avoid America's Funniest Videos...
Its one if my son's. Favorite shows....

But he is young, hopefully he will grow out of it....

I agree, the news is unevenly portrayed. I also don't get my news from main stream media such as Fox, NBC, ect. do to me not trusting them. Commondreams.org tends to have more depressing news, because lets face it government is a corrupt institution in many cases, and that is what commondreams covers. As enjoyable as it is to see a baby panda at the zoo, or watch a dog that has a bark that sounds similar to the word mom, this just isn't news. It's more of a distraction. Yes it is sad that people are suffering, but the more aware the general public becomes of such scenarios, the easier it is to make plans to fix them. I totally agree that you can't just drown yourself in bad news though. I spent nearly a year and a half reading the news on that site daily, and let me tell you It got to me.

I merely wished to use this video as an example of what not to be. Also as a reminder of what power does to people who don't have the wisdom and heart to control it justly. If you get a chance to watch the video Jester, what really bugged me was this officers casual attitude after the act of dousing these innocent women with a can of mace. I mean this guys nonchalant attitude of abuse is grotesque. IMHO I believe news should be only focused on the important. Silliness and lighthearted subject matter is a necessity for keeping a positive mind, but that's what youtube is for. Of course who gets to decide what news is important lol.:silly: "Ohh life you crazy circus you" Also when police commit acts like this, they need to be held more responsible. God knows If I just walked up and maced a cop for protesting something he didn't agree with there would be hell to pay. Anyway that's my rant and I am sticking to it:lol:


ps oh and sorry about your son Jestor, that is terrible I hope he gets better soon:laugh:
(hey atleast its not Bob Saggot anymore haha)

As I watched that video I could literally feel my disgust rising. What's more I had even watched it before then!

It would take one hell of an argument for a Jedi to ever commit something such as what is shown (the bad stuff of course). The calm cop who thank's people is the police archetype.

we all make people dire in the street.
we all watch the News.
we all share an direct educated connections.

OK. I have to say it. I love the way that guy reported the "news".


More footage: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/09/29-0

So, what can be done?

Amrathelion Kelosi wrote: So, what can be done?

Education and awareness are our greatest weapons. I do not think that people are inherently immoral. They might look out for themselves, but I think when it comes down to it there is always something that they won't do or later regret doing.

That is the part of their minds that we nurture and from that we stop these actions from happening.

I agree, to a point. People may not be immoral, but that is, in my opinion, a product of social programming. To my observations people are naturally selfish. Look at toddlers and you will see what I mean. A child will sneak snacks to satisfy its sweet tooth, have no qualms about beating up another child in order to get the toy that the other child has, young children will lie to cover up something they know will get them in trouble and of course, they have temper tantrums when they don't get what they want.

Look around us, that selfishness extends to adult life and the world has been shaped by greed and corruption. No longer does humanity truly love each other. To the contrary, man kind cares about the individual. Not many people realize that we are ALL part of ONE. We are the same... Even in the terms of science, EVERYTHING in reality is made up of the exact same thing... the ever powerful, yet miniscule atom. When we war, when we fight, rape, steal, pillage and plunder. When we act in any sort of selfish manner. We are doing it to OURSELVES...Think about it.
I probably strayed from the subject matter, that seems to happen a lot to me. Something takes over and before I know it. I've made some sort of point. Anyway, education and awareness are indeed our greatest weapon. I agree with you on that. But, speaking from personal experience, given the right means, we will all willingly fall into darkness. Why? Because we can. Because we are all inherently selfish.
On the flip side of that. We are ALL Universally Conscious. We all have the capability to transcend the "selfish seperate self" and Achieve Oneness with The Force (Universal Spirit, God, whatever you call it.) But in order to do that, we must essentially "kill" the selfish seperate self. More on that some other time. That is all.

"Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself. Basically, it's made up of two separate words — "mank" and "ind." What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind. "-Jack Handey

No longer does humanity truly love each other.

You are mistaken. They never did love one another. That's why freedom had to be invented. The right not to do what others tell you to do. And there's a lot more work to be done on that.
Selfishness, greed and corruption aren't even on the agenda.. Wanting more is in our very nature. Without that, we would not even have made it to "caveman". Drawbacks vs. advantages? So far I'd say we're doing OK.

You said it yourself friend "Wanting more is in our very nature" that IS selfishness. Here's what I've come to understand. SELFISHNESS is the cause of every problem the world has faced. Think about it. War? Selfishness. Theft? Selfishness. Adultery? Selfishness. Genocide? Corporate takeover? Economic collapse? Selfishness. See the trend? That is all.

ren wrote: That's why freedom had to be invented.

Freedom was never invented. It was only ever taken away and then given back again.

I agree we are progressing as a world though we still have far to go.

Each individual pursuing their own self interest is the ideal goal of society. My self interest is to learn about the world and myself and to benefit both in turn.

Do what makes you happy, but harm none in the process.

I may not like what other people pursue but I will gladly defend their right to pursue it!

That I think is at the core of what I consider Jediism.

Freedom was never invented. It was only ever taken away and then given back again.

It was in the context of society. Where there is no society, there is no problem of lack of freedom because there's no-one to tell you what you can or cant do !

You said it yourself friend "Wanting more is in our very nature" that IS selfishness. Here's what I've come to understand. SELFISHNESS is the cause of every problem the world has faced. Think about it. War? Selfishness. Theft? Selfishness. Adultery? Selfishness. Genocide? Corporate takeover? Economic collapse? Selfishness. See the trend? That is all.

I do not disagree with this. What I am saying is that this selfishness was always there. And that it is thanks to that desire to have more that society has been built and advances been made (for all). Hence the "Drawbacks vs. advantages? So far I'd say we're doing OK. "

Hi All,

New to this place, I noticed this topic and it caught my interest.


Amrathelion Kelosi wrote:
"You said it yourself friend "Wanting more is in our very nature" that IS selfishness"

I understand what you are trying to say, but I think it’s important that we clarify the difference between desire and selfish desire.

Selfish desire can be destructive, self serving and potentially harmful to others, where as a strong desire for the greater good can be of benefit to many. To add to that, even selfish desire can yield positivity. Good can come of evil and vice versa.

I think the real problem in today’s world is greed, and we have a western society that not only has greed that is out of control, but the feeling is capped by a general feeling that this acquisition of material wealth is not just earned but actually a right, which it is clearly not. Too many people want something for nothing.
Ultimately people are filling a void of some sort and it is clear that we have lost something along the way.

Do I think that void is religion? Honestly… no. But what we are doing is becoming more isolated, more cut off from the world around us. And I think it is this detachment from the world around us that is causing us to lose our moral compass with regards to how we interact with our fellow beings and even the planet as a whole.

Not meant as an arguement per se, but more as a contribution to the discussion.

All the best
K

Not Selfishness...

Animal-istic....

This is us, with no moral compass...

As adults, it is up to us to teach these "moral lessons" to our offspring....

Like a lioness teaches her cubs....

Then, they become less animal, more devine... They learn sharing, and caring, and how to get along in a social group, hopefully...

Animal, less animal/more man, man, less man/more devine, define.....

This is what we are striving for, right? The qualities of Buddha, Jesus, Allah?

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Freedom was given away...

Instead of people taking it upon themselves to get involved/stay involved with each other, we created "rules" or "laws", and put people in charge of them....

Or so I think......

Remember my disclaimer at the bottom... lol...

Jestor wrote: Not Selfishness...

Animal-istic....

This is us, with no moral compass...

As adults, it is up to us to teach these "moral lessons" to our offspring....

Absolutely, a moral compass is not a skill/notion that we are born with, this is taught/learned.

K