What if God died?

This is purely theoretical.

What if there was a God who created the Universe in 7 cycles which was roughly the equivalent of 700-1000 earth years and then died?

And what if everything, every story, every religion, was a "what if" theory about God still being alive?

selah

Elegant question inderdaad.

Theories ... We like some of them.

Some provide "feelings" or a mental system to solve something, or allow us to ppreciate relationships with the world from a certain nuance. Does an idea exist just because we think about it? It depends on the context and utility.

What if all the goddesses or gods have already die? Could their creations and the connection they had with their creations remain just because the inspiration they evoked?
Memories, evaporation or mixed metaphors in the face "of the pain" that our actions do not remain alive.

Yesterday I saw an episode of the Lucifer series, where God loses his powers and likes: being human, but he also has a couple of impulses and misalignments (God is jealous of a man, kills him and then revives him, all this in seconds)

Thinking of the approximately 4200 religions of the planet, there are too many goddesses and gods created to endure the complications of life, to give meaning instead of dying and being dust, to feel protected against the natural adversities.

Imagining having a soul to feel alive "with something more" than matter... An idea might not exist according to the criteria we apply to it, but I recognize that it would be a relief to think that some gods or goddesses "who are still living" look at me and then give me a little gift of hope in the face of ambiguities and misfortunes.

If he died, I need to stand up for myself and enjoy healthy meaningful life as much I can


De belangrijke dingen van het leven, zijn geen dingen

Jhannuzs Ian wrote: Yesterday I saw an episode of the Lucifer series, where God loses his powers and likes: being human, but he also has a couple of impulses and misalignments (God is jealous of a man, kills him and then revives him, all this in seconds)

Same here. That's basically what inspired the question.

What if: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/open-discussions/119713-the-last-question#303981

Question back: What do you mean by "what if"? Setting aside logistical problems and all of our reasons to suspect (quite strongly) that these century-long cycles wouldn't correspond to how the universe appears to have come to be now, of course we can entertain the hypothetical. So let's say this were so, and this God being "lived" by some definition of the term and then later died. Now, what do you mean by "what if"? Do you mean what are the consequences of its death to the subsequent behaviour of the universe? Perhaps you mean philosophical implications of a mortal creator being? It's a great question in that it can be explored in any number of directions. Did you have some particular ones in mind, then?

Gisteron wrote: Did you have some particular ones in mind, then?

You can venture down any path you like.

ZealotX wrote: This is purely theoretical.

What if there was a God who created the Universe in 7 cycles which was roughly the equivalent of 700-1000 earth years and then died?

And what if everything, every story, every religion, was a "what if" theory about God still being alive?

selah

I mean, what if God doesn't exist at all and never did? What if all our flailing about trying to describe God, to pigeonhole it, to define it, is but the fruitless effort of a race alone in a cold, indifferent universe? Does it change anything? Whether this "God" of which you speak is alive or dead? Is it not the spirit? The essence of such a being that is important?

Maybe being from a "dead" religion gives me a different perspective. I think the fire of spirit inherent in any religion is the important part. What if Gods do die if they aren't worshiped enough? Could they be resurrected?

There are, after all, many myths about "the dying God." Dionysus, Mithra, Osiris, Jesus of Nazareth, etc. I think we're scared. Scared that the sacred and the profane don't really exist. That, in the end, there is only life and death and a return to nothingness. We're obsessed with such things. Makes sense to me that if we're preternaturally predisposed to contemplating these things there's maybe something to it? Or, perhaps it's just a collective unconscious thing? Who can say?

I don't think of the true God as being some person, a creator of what we see in this universe, separate from it all and pulling all the strings. God, as I see it, IS EVERYTHING. Therefore, to answer your question, if God died, we would no longer exist.

Many Christians I know say: "everything is by the will of God."
If everything is according to the will of God, then the existence of the world without him is impossible - if God died, his will would also die.

But let's remember about such a religion as "deism". In accordance with it, God created the world, but no longer interferes with what is happening here. In this case, the death of God would not affect at all what is happening in this world ...

That's not a bad point. But think about this...

Everything came from somewhere, right? There had to be a single source from which reality itself had to come into existence. I'm not talking about the universe and all that's in it. I mean the very concept of a continuum. Real. Unreal. Creation. Destruction. Life. Death. This and that.

Where did reality come from? How does existence exist?

God or not, something triggered the "THIS", and everything is made up of whatever it all came from.

Streen wrote: Everything came from somewhere, right?

Doesn't that kind of require a somewhere to be there first? If there was no somewheres, then surely anything couldn't have come from a somewhere, could it? If you want to say distinguishable locations have always existed... hmm I'm kind of unsure how to even respond to that. On the one hand I should for sheer consistency inquire just what in particular suggested to you that this is so. But on the other hand, knowing that you are presenting the cosmological argument in the form that assumes things like space are not past-eternal, I'm kind of also tempted to just watch you shoot yourself in the foot with that line alone...

There had to be a single source from which reality itself had to come into existence. (emphasis added)

Why? What's the reason it had to have been a single source as opposed to, say, multiple ones, or, for that matter, none at all?

How does existence exist?

How can it not? What's the alternative, non-existing existence? That sounds like a contradiction in terms to me. It wouldn't be existence, if it didn't exist, would it? What does a state of affairs look like where there is no existence? A state like that can't exist, anyway, because there isn't any existence in it, or am I misunderstanding something?

The question was "What if there was a God..." so in this scenario, the literal existence of a creator God in this equation is taken as a hypothetical given.

For-Emris wrote: Many Christians I know say: "everything is by the will of God."
If everything is according to the will of God, then the existence of the world without him is impossible - if God died, his will would also die.

But let's remember about such a religion as "deism". In accordance with it, God created the world, but no longer interferes with what is happening here. In this case, the death of God would not affect at all what is happening in this world ...

Does "everything" in that quote include God? If everything exists by God's will then nothing could exist because God himself could not exist without his own will creating him and thus his will could not exist without his existence separate from will. If he, God, can exist without his will then why couldn't anything, and therefore everything else?

So I think the link between the death of God and the death of creation isn't well reasoned. But of course, the same thinking would have to justify the existence of evil as God's will and thus all the evil that has ever happened in God's will so therefore why would/should he save anyone from what he has himself willed? But of course this is a contradiction from the statement "God is good".