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Ways to experience an alien invasion

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17 Jan 2019 12:57 #332593 by
I was seeing what were some of the things you would do if extra terrestrials invaded earth

Some would have the idea of using resources, some may want to take humans and enslave even brainwash/mind control them or just destroy all of them

If they had invaded and negotiations, if any took place, failed how would you respond to it?

Would it be best to to know when to surrender if they overwhelm you? Would it be best to just all fight and keep fighting and have every single human continue to fight even if it is hopeless because it is better to die than be slave and pretty much just fight all around even if it means humanities exctinction? To fight until the last human is still standing? Would it be best to know when to retreat and go underground and live to fight another day when you are defeated because you want to keep humanity safe and not die out.


How does one go against such a force that is technologically superior? How would you go against it?

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17 Jan 2019 16:37 #332608 by
I would think that any race sufficiently advanced enough to travel between stars would have already solved any problems associated with their extinction and would therefore have no need for invasion of another sentient species planet. Im sure they would have the resources to get any raw materials from non inhabited bodies in space and colonization and teraforming techniques so far in advance the could convert non populated planets.

However if some species did invade, I would just move to mars with Elon Musk.

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17 Jan 2019 17:17 #332613 by
Statistically, and historically, there are a handful of things that would happen.

Firstly, we may just become food. The same way we view cattle, they'd view us. Just a foreign delicacy, if we're honoured to be considered as such.

Secondly, which we see throughout the ages... they bring some sorta super bug with them and we all die, akin to that which happened in the Americas after Europeans came over to the Native populous.

Finally... and quite likely if our immune systems don't fail us and we don't prove to be rather scrumptious... slavery. We are intelligent enough, and learn quickly enough, that we could end up proving quite useful as labourers.

Perhaps I would be mistaken, and I'd love to be. But, looking back on how our race has treated those we considered technologically, intellectually, or racial inferior or at least equal... well, it's never gone well. We only now have realised the flaws of our ancestor's actions. But, perhaps, a race capable of traversing the stars may have also learned similar lessons, and perhaps may, as slim as that chance may be, be better than our race has ever been morally.

If so, I hope we can learn from them.

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17 Jan 2019 18:17 #332619 by
It is true it will depend on what they want. If it is simply resources negotiations would need to be made first to see what they want. If they just want slaves or food i.e. us, would it not be preferable to fight until the very end?

Whatever they would have in mind, I wouldn't be for it if they simply just want to add another planet to an empire. I'd live but then I'd suffer and my children and family would suffer. Fighting would be better than living a life of misery.

Although if a species is advanced enough to come to our planet it does not necessarily mean they are superior in every way as far as the sciences go. They may not know much about robotics because they themselves didn't dwell in it like we have or chemistry or genetics.

There are a lot of people on the planet although There's a decent amount in active military but of course there's reserves, paramilitary militia ect. so there's a lot of us willing to fight. And we do have a home advantage as invaders generally have less of an advantage if they do not know the area and terrain.

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17 Jan 2019 18:27 #332620 by

Yabuturtle wrote: It is true it will depend on what they want. If it is simply resources negotiations would need to be made first to see what they want. If they just want slaves or food i.e. us, would it not be preferable to fight until the very end?


Are you talking about as an individual or as a species? Because I think many would have different opinions. No it would not be preferable for me. Better to be alive and suffer a bit than be dead. Walking into a fight you cant win is dumb unless you want to just commit suicide. Better to bide your time and look for better ways to defeat your enemy.


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. - Sun Tzu

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17 Jan 2019 18:47 #332622 by Manu
TotJO should definitely have a “Useless hypotheticals” subforum under the Humor category. :laugh:

Superior alien invading race? We are going to be eradicated, eaten, or enslaved.

Or maybe they infiltrate government and take over financial systems and resources and use capitalism to legally own us.

Your breakfast is getting cold.

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The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
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17 Jan 2019 18:56 #332624 by

Manu wrote: TotJO should definitely have a “Useless hypotheticals” subforum under the Humor category. :laugh:

Superior alien invading race? We are going to be eradicated, eaten, or enslaved.

Or maybe they infiltrate government and take over financial systems and resources and use capitalism to legally own us.

Your breakfast is getting cold.



Or they setup shop on mars but then decide that mars is not as cool as earth and they can have a better life on earth and so they start crossing the mars earth boarder illegally in hopes that they get a better life and then they start interbreeding with humans to produce anchor babies and the next thing you know we are all aliens because we never setup a boarder wall!!!!

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17 Jan 2019 20:33 #332632 by For-Emris
First of all. How do you imagine the negotiations with aliens? We do not know their language. They do not know ours. In order to learn a foreign language, you need a certain time. This is provided that you have a dictionary and textbook. But here - an absolutely new, unknown language.
If a conflict begins ... Everyone will choose for themselves what to do in this situation. But, the survival of the human race is a priority. More important than personal ambition, pride or the desire to maintain power.

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17 Jan 2019 20:39 #332634 by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4PYI6TzqYk

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17 Jan 2019 20:52 #332636 by RosalynJ
The Fossa aren't attacking right now. We are too busy calling members of our own species aliens. We haven't warranted the type of alien traffic that would lead to an invasion

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17 Jan 2019 21:19 #332637 by

Rosalyn J wrote: The Fossa aren't attacking right now. We are too busy calling members of our own species aliens. We haven't warranted the type of alien traffic that would lead to an invasion



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ABUJRGZKg

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17 Jan 2019 21:25 #332638 by Manu

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: Or they setup shop on mars but then decide that mars is not as cool as earth and they can have a better life on earth and so they start crossing the mars earth boarder illegally in hopes that they get a better life and then they start interbreeding with humans to produce anchor babies and the next thing you know we are all aliens because we never setup a boarder wall!!!!


Been hanging out with Donald Trump too much lately? Bring me a Big Mac haha.

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The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
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17 Jan 2019 21:37 #332640 by

Manu wrote:
Been hanging out with Donald Trump too much lately? Bring me a Big Mac haha.



All I can say is I hope hes still the president when the aliens come because the Space Force will kick ass!!!

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17 Jan 2019 21:39 - 17 Jan 2019 21:40 #332641 by
I am up for more discussions on the idea of it. Let me know what you think
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17 Jan 2019 21:40 #332642 by

Manu wrote: TotJO should definitely have a “Useless hypotheticals” subforum under the Humor category. :laugh:

Superior alien invading race? We are going to be eradicated, eaten, or enslaved.

Or maybe they infiltrate government and take over financial systems and resources and use capitalism to legally own us.

Your breakfast is getting cold.

Ok.

What do you base this on anyway?

Who knows what they would do?

So pretty much anyone who wants to hypothesize something is considered useless because yourself don't agree with it?

Kind of arrogant if you ask me. It's called a discussion form. You discuss. You know, about stuff?

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17 Jan 2019 21:45 #332644 by

Yabuturtle wrote:
So pretty much anyone who wants to hypothesize something is considered useless because yourself don't agree with it?

Kind of arrogant if you ask me. It's called a discussion form. You discuss. You know, about stuff?


Seems your doing the same thing. You are disparaging manus idea just because you don't like it. As the renowned conspiracy theorist you are you should be well aware of the lizard men that have infiltrated the govt as well as the secret alien races that are already working with our govt to enslave mankind. So why all this talk of an invasion. The invasion is already under way just as you have described. The ways of force have not worked so now they are taking us over by putting us to sleep through subterfuge. ... right?

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17 Jan 2019 21:51 #332645 by Manu

Yabuturtle wrote:

Manu wrote: TotJO should definitely have a “Useless hypotheticals” subforum under the Humor category. :laugh:

Superior alien invading race? We are going to be eradicated, eaten, or enslaved.

Or maybe they infiltrate government and take over financial systems and resources and use capitalism to legally own us.

Your breakfast is getting cold.

Ok.

What do you base this on anyway?

Who knows what they would do?

So pretty much anyone who wants to hypothesize something is considered useless because yourself don't agree with it?

Kind of arrogant if you ask me. It's called a discussion form. You discuss. You know, about stuff?


I'm sorry Yabuturtle, I didn't mean to be offensive.

I'm just musing at the fact that we tend to get caught up in these super long conversations about stuff that may never happen, or that we have almost no data about anyway to make any meaningful decision about it, while there is so much to do in terms of personal development and positively impacting society (you know, the stuff TotJO stands for).

Not that I am above it. Of course not, I do it as much as anybody else, which is why it amuses me. I like laughing at myself. Didn't mean to imply I was mocking you specifically only because you were the OP of this particular thread.

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The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
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18 Jan 2019 00:23 #332648 by
I think we err if we automatically assume that a hypothesized visit from extraterrestrial aliens would be an invasion.

Of course, it could be so. Perhaps the first interstellar travelers we collectively encounter might be as acquisitive and violent as many humans with whom we are familiar. But there are other possibilities, too. Members of an alien species could have developed a culture that nurtures individual compassion, or they could be united in some kind of hive mind that makes causing harm to a member of their own species or a similar one inconceivable. They might just think we are an interesting curiousity, like we would regard a pack of purple kangaroos, and leave us after only a short visit. They might be galactic traders, willing to provide us with fantastic medical devices and mind-boggling computers in exchange for large quantities of Snickers bars, and Ti-D-Bol

For our part, it may be that despite our fears, we have an almost subconscious understanding that an alien culture is more likely to be wise and kind than our own. As someone once said, there's a reason that all of our equipment employed in the search for intelligent life in the universe is pointed somewhere else. :-D

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18 Jan 2019 15:40 #332659 by
There is no need to discuss this possibility further. Its pretty obvious aliens have been here many centuries and in fact are already in the act of invasion. The thing we need to be talking about now is how to stop these diabolical creatures from deep space!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA9k3n-mIDo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjLkMJ_7VcU

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18 Jan 2019 17:43 - 18 Jan 2019 17:56 #332661 by
It's fine and I respect that so thank you. This was really more of a discussion on what to do in case it does happen which I think it likely will eventually in out future given our vast universe, assuming there's not another universe out there and we are one of many dimensions ect. And the more advanced one gets, the likely hood we are to encounter them and some may be hostile.

I understand it won't be everyone's cup of tea and people (Like Kyrin) assume that if I believe in one or more theories I believe in all of them. For all I know aliens are already here but I can't be certain but honestly would not be surprised due to how many secrets our government keeps, the abductions that have happened, roswell ect. Who knows if it is lizards, greys ect.

I don't think every alien contact however will be hostile and some will be like other people you get good and bad here and there.

Although no matter what it may be or how, I sometimes wonder what humanity really would do. Would we like other people surrender in order to preserve our species or just fight until the last human is alive or run away from it. It's really more of a study and discussion of how humans really would reach to such a force. It has not happened but it also does not mean it will never happen either.
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