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Force theory
28 Jan 2018 17:42 #313753
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Hello everyone,
I just registered on your page after speaking with the admin(?) of the facebook page.
I just had a question regarding force theory and whether anybody has seriously looked into it?
As ridiculous as that may sound, scientifically its not entirely impossible.
It comes neatly under Aether theory (also called Ether theory) something which both Aristotle and Einstein believed in. A material that occupies space through which waves propagate. Although many modern physicists don't subscribe to the idea due to its semi-replacement by Einsteins theory of relativity. However it is documented that Einstein still believed an Aether was possible. it would explain why, in quantum mechanics, particles behave as waves under certain conditions, so it wouldn't conflict with quantum theory.
You see the ancients believed the Aether to be a kind of barrier between the physical and spiritual in a sense, where energy from the spiritual world was translated into the physical. In this way the world around us is shaped by the spiritual. Spiritual energy is said to come in the form of electromagnetic waves and gravitational forces you see.
Its also known that the human body has its own "field" of sorts, given many names but multiple cultures, but it is thought to be semi-electromagnetic in nature. It is also said the human soul vibrates at a certain frequency. Modern alchemists for example seek to raise the internal vibrations of ones self in order that they may rise above their lower states of existence. Anger and lower actions give rise to low vibration, love and kindness to higher vibrations, simply put.
In theory then, if one were able to manipulate ones own field (or soul depending on your belief), then it is theoretically possible to propagate waves of vibrational energy through the Aether medium in order to give rise to other forms of wave and particle energy that may be able to manipulate the physical world around us based upon our internal intentions.
This is a very simplified version and will no doubt be debated. My key point here though is the theory. Based on what we know thanks to modern physics, our observations have an influence on the world around us. The law of attraction states that we attract what we think about. Is it so ridiculous to think that it may be possible to manipulate the physical in more ways through the power of mental and spiritual focus?
I just registered on your page after speaking with the admin(?) of the facebook page.
I just had a question regarding force theory and whether anybody has seriously looked into it?
As ridiculous as that may sound, scientifically its not entirely impossible.
It comes neatly under Aether theory (also called Ether theory) something which both Aristotle and Einstein believed in. A material that occupies space through which waves propagate. Although many modern physicists don't subscribe to the idea due to its semi-replacement by Einsteins theory of relativity. However it is documented that Einstein still believed an Aether was possible. it would explain why, in quantum mechanics, particles behave as waves under certain conditions, so it wouldn't conflict with quantum theory.
You see the ancients believed the Aether to be a kind of barrier between the physical and spiritual in a sense, where energy from the spiritual world was translated into the physical. In this way the world around us is shaped by the spiritual. Spiritual energy is said to come in the form of electromagnetic waves and gravitational forces you see.
Its also known that the human body has its own "field" of sorts, given many names but multiple cultures, but it is thought to be semi-electromagnetic in nature. It is also said the human soul vibrates at a certain frequency. Modern alchemists for example seek to raise the internal vibrations of ones self in order that they may rise above their lower states of existence. Anger and lower actions give rise to low vibration, love and kindness to higher vibrations, simply put.
In theory then, if one were able to manipulate ones own field (or soul depending on your belief), then it is theoretically possible to propagate waves of vibrational energy through the Aether medium in order to give rise to other forms of wave and particle energy that may be able to manipulate the physical world around us based upon our internal intentions.
This is a very simplified version and will no doubt be debated. My key point here though is the theory. Based on what we know thanks to modern physics, our observations have an influence on the world around us. The law of attraction states that we attract what we think about. Is it so ridiculous to think that it may be possible to manipulate the physical in more ways through the power of mental and spiritual focus?
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28 Jan 2018 18:31 #313760
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First you would have to provide evidence this spiritual realm even exists. What mechanisms proprigate this energy and how those mechanisms interact with the corporeal. Namely how does spirit become or interact with reality?
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28 Jan 2018 18:58 #313766
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Magic is just science we don't understand yet.
And interesting theory, and thought we may not be able to prove something's existence ( eg. the spirit, the Force, God, ect) there must be something to it if, over thousands of years and across cultures that never interacted, people have believed in something more beyond the corporeal realm. Perhaps, one day, with enough practise and knowledge of the universe, a person may unlock these sciences.
And interesting theory, and thought we may not be able to prove something's existence ( eg. the spirit, the Force, God, ect) there must be something to it if, over thousands of years and across cultures that never interacted, people have believed in something more beyond the corporeal realm. Perhaps, one day, with enough practise and knowledge of the universe, a person may unlock these sciences.
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28 Jan 2018 19:03 #313768
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That's a fallacy, argumentum ad populism. Just because many believe it, does not make it true.
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28 Jan 2018 19:08 - 28 Jan 2018 19:28 #313769
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I don’t know if anybody here has seriously looked into it, though I like to remain open-minded.
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28 Jan 2018 19:14 #313770
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Not saying it is true, just that there is truth to it.
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: That's a fallacy, argumentum ad populism. Just because many believe it, does not make it true.
Not saying it is true, just that there is truth to it.
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28 Jan 2018 19:22 - 28 Jan 2018 20:17 #313772
by Loudzoo
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This is the best semi-scientific attempt I've seen to describe a Force Theory:
Science and the Akashic Field:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Akashic-Field-Integral-Everything/dp/1594771812
well worth a read!
Science and the Akashic Field:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Akashic-Field-Integral-Everything/dp/1594771812
well worth a read!
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28 Jan 2018 21:14 #313785
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How is that any different?
This "theory" is not a theory at all in any sort of scientific terms. It would be generous to even call it a hypothesis. It's actually just unfounded speculation and blind assertion designed to confuse the reader by mixing valid scientific theory with new age mumbo jumbo.
For example how does one come to the unfounded conclusion that "raising" our frequency has anything to do with emotions? You just confuse the issue by equivocating the electromagnetic spectrum with some sort of "soul vibration". First you have to define exactly what a soul is and secondly you have to prove it has some relation to the electromagnetic spectrum. Are you actually suggesting that UV radiation is somehow less evolved than infrared? How does this make the slightest sense?
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Arisaig wrote:
Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: That's a fallacy, argumentum ad populism. Just because many believe it, does not make it true.
Not saying it is true, just that there is truth to it.
How is that any different?
This "theory" is not a theory at all in any sort of scientific terms. It would be generous to even call it a hypothesis. It's actually just unfounded speculation and blind assertion designed to confuse the reader by mixing valid scientific theory with new age mumbo jumbo.
For example how does one come to the unfounded conclusion that "raising" our frequency has anything to do with emotions? You just confuse the issue by equivocating the electromagnetic spectrum with some sort of "soul vibration". First you have to define exactly what a soul is and secondly you have to prove it has some relation to the electromagnetic spectrum. Are you actually suggesting that UV radiation is somehow less evolved than infrared? How does this make the slightest sense?
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28 Jan 2018 21:58 - 28 Jan 2018 21:59 #313788
by Zenchi
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Kyrin Wyldstar, scaring away the newbies going on two yrs now, :laugh:
https://youtu.be/_WJXRpE7vME
https://youtu.be/_WJXRpE7vME
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28 Jan 2018 22:08 #313790
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Hey Kyrin,
I understand your concerns, my aim with this post is to discuss the topic.
Your first point, proving the spiritual realm exists is certainly a challenge in itself. The way it has been said that the spiritual and the physical interact make it nearly impossible to measure or detect using modern scientific methods. However, sound seems to be the most successful method from what I've heard of. Another method that has been tried is geometric electromagnetism, something that took off more recently.
You are correct when you say its more of a hypothesis, and this certainly not a complete hypothesis by far. However, i think you are a little confused when talking about the frequency. The frequency I talked about isn't measurable, its a term used in alchemy to describe the raising of one's self. Frequency when discussed in this manner is not the same as frequency in scientific terms, at least not exactly. It would be best if you read up on it yourself as I may not be explaining it very well.
The point i'm trying to make is both spiritually and scientifically, the "force hypothesis" has a valid foundation.
I understand your concerns, my aim with this post is to discuss the topic.
Your first point, proving the spiritual realm exists is certainly a challenge in itself. The way it has been said that the spiritual and the physical interact make it nearly impossible to measure or detect using modern scientific methods. However, sound seems to be the most successful method from what I've heard of. Another method that has been tried is geometric electromagnetism, something that took off more recently.
You are correct when you say its more of a hypothesis, and this certainly not a complete hypothesis by far. However, i think you are a little confused when talking about the frequency. The frequency I talked about isn't measurable, its a term used in alchemy to describe the raising of one's self. Frequency when discussed in this manner is not the same as frequency in scientific terms, at least not exactly. It would be best if you read up on it yourself as I may not be explaining it very well.
The point i'm trying to make is both spiritually and scientifically, the "force hypothesis" has a valid foundation.
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