Jedi Sentinel Findings

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30 Jan 2008 23:53 #10770 by
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just some things I didnt know that could be useful.
Now we have Light Jedi,Dark Jedi,and Potentium.
Master Nash might want to take a look at this!

The Potentium was a sect of beings who had a particular way of viewing the Force.They claimed that what others called the light side was actually just the Force itself, which is inherently good. This was backed up by the fact that Ashla, the ancient name of the Force, came later to describe the Light Side. What others therefore called the dark side was a perversion of the Force, twisted by those who used it.Believers of Potentium said that the potential for light and dark sides resided in the user, not the Force itself. They also thought that the Jedi Masters refused to believe in the Potentium view because it would mean the Jedi weren't needed to fight evil, for evil would not exist. And since there was no dark side, there were no dark side actions or Force techniques; in effect any action, good or evil, could be performed without risk as long as the intent wasn't evil.

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31 Jan 2008 00:31 #10771 by
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That is interesting, Master. It is similar to what I think, yet I never knew that before.

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31 Jan 2008 00:41 #10772 by
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You might thing that now but understand.

(MOVIE)The Jedi Council didn't consider them Dark Jedi,parallel to the Jedi Order's of Gray Jedi .They said it was the duty of the Jedi to use the Force to protect others, not study its absolute limits. The Council said that testing the Force to its limits would lead to the dark side.

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31 Jan 2008 00:57 #10773 by
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Master Nash has a more descriptive look at the classes

JEDI CLASSES


Jedi Guardian was the name given to a Jedi whose skills and talents lay in battle, a light side mirror of the Sith Warrior.

They often concentrated on martial training and combat and usually engaged in combat more than any other Jedi, though they were no less skilled at diplomacy. Like all Jedi, they were keepers of the peace, acting as a kind of special police force
Jedi Consular (also called a Jedi seer) was, like all Jedi, skilled in battle, but rarely entered combat, preferring to study the mysteries of the Force.Consulars were the primary scholars and diplomats and seers of the Order, often becoming instructors.

What the Jedi Guardian preferred to achieve by combat, the Jedi Consular achieved by words or the Force.

When they attained the rank of Jedi Master, consulars became known as Sage Masters.

Two Sage Masters joined with two Warrior Masters to build the initial Jedi Temple
Jedi Sentinels: were a subsect of the Jedi Order that sought a balance between the two extremes of the Jedi, the Jedi Consulars and the Jedi Guardians. They possessed adequate combat skills and had somewhat extensive knowledge of the Force. Along with this blended knowledge of both combat and the Force, they also possessed exceptional non-Force skills. A Jedi Sentinel typically starts out as a Padawan learner instructed by a higher-ranking Jedi Master. He begins his career at 1st level, and is encouraged to pursue intellectual and physical endeavors. The Jedi Sentinel would be just as likely to be found in a library researching some little known tidbit, as he would be found in a training facility.

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31 Jan 2008 01:28 #10774 by
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lol I should've looked at this before I sent my message.

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31 Jan 2008 03:32 #10775 by
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The issue of classes is a widely debated one. While some believe in a very large class system, others believe in a basic class structure. In the end, the goal of all jedi is peace through the force. But, just as anything else, we all have different paths. Some choose an intellectual approach (i.e. Consulars), some choose a physical approach (i.e. Guardians), while others blend the 2 (i.e. Sentinels).

Within those classes, many people of broken it down further, but essentially, these are the 3 paths. I try not to get hung up on classes and ranks. I am a jedi, and that is all the recognition and classification that I require. This is my path. If I were to have to classify myself, I would be considered a Sentinel Jedi.

No jedi's experiences and choices are the same. Each one of us has our own path in the force, and the force has it's individual plans for each of us.

The use of classifications is useful in that it makes it easier to seek out others who are following a similar path. A Consular Jedi would probably not seek out a Guardina for spiritual guidance, just as a Guardian would probably not seek out a Consular for instruction in martial arts.

It does not make any class better then another, just a different path, just a different choice. Because in the end, it is the choices we make that will define each of us as jedi, and as people.

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31 Jan 2008 06:11 #10776 by
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Sorry Master Nash i ment for you to see the part about the Potentium i wasnt sure if you had them in your records.Also i didnt mean to make it see like any one class was better.Your very right.They are just ment to make it easier and to have some type of organization for similar believes.

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31 Jan 2008 08:41 #10781 by
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I don't see it as classes. I see it as specialization. We are all on the same team. On any team, you have particular people who are better at some things and bad at others. These persons on place in positions they are good at to benefit the team.

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31 Jan 2008 10:10 #10786 by
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True but i would like to make a comment on this. The Force, as i see it, is neither good nor evil. It is completely neutral. It is Nature. A hurricane strikes land killing thousands, some people can view that as evil. A baby is born some people can view that as good. Now what happens if in that hurricane was also killed a group of a racist clan who had planned to kill millions over a period of time? Or what happens if that baby being born was actually the next Hitler. So you see, the Force is balance, neither good nor evil but always maintaining our universe and our world. If our planet is struck by a commet tomarrow then i know that there was a reason to it. I do not know what but there was. Maybe we are on a destructive path that would end the lives of other alien races, who knows. But balance must be preserved.

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31 Jan 2008 11:41 #10791 by Garm
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Ahh nature and balance, I agree totally with you Sister. I remember bringing up the subject a long time ago in a....well here. I have always subsribed to the idea that the force is a product of nature if not nature itself as opposed to a creation of the divine. The balanceing is usually a self regulating item.

I agree also with Decimus on the team deal, we all work for the same company (the Jedi, re: the force) but may belong to different departments. I call my self a Sentinel here and on other sites, while I prefer to study and experiment with the force as a phenomenon, I am not content to sit back and take a non-active role of researcher. Thus the blending of the two is a perfect compromise.

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31 Jan 2008 11:56 #10794 by Garm
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I believe the classes are:

Guardian

Sentinel

Consular

Healer

Scholar

I'm not 100% on this so correct my if I'm wrong

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31 Jan 2008 12:34 #10795 by
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Sister Anora, I agree completely with you everything has a reason, but sometimes that reason is not clear to us.
On the Potentium side of things, I completely agree with their philosophy. I believe that there is only the Force, and that it is the actions of the person who controls the Force that defines them as a good or bad person in the eyes of others. The Jedi Masters were not destroying the bad side of the Force, merely stopping those that would abuse the Force from carrying out those actions.
'If there was no evil there could be no good, therefore it must be good to be evil.' Think about that quote, what is really being said is that there is a symbiotic relationship between good and bad (both are different parts of the same thing). The only thing that matters is how those parts are used.
And on a more personal note, I would consider myself to be more of a Jedi Consular, if I had to be classed

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31 Jan 2008 16:38 #10799 by
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I would also add the older class of the Jedi Watchmen. In an online community such as this, with our Jedi far flung across the world, the task of the Jedi Watchmen would be the same as in Star Wars fiction: we would be responsible for upholding the Code in a specific geographical area.
Just a thought.
MTFBWY

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31 Jan 2008 17:23 #10801 by
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Lenny wrote:

I believe the classes are:

Guardian

Sentinel

Consular

Healer

Scholar

I'm not 100% on this so correct my if I'm wrong

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31 Jan 2008 17:38 #10802 by
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sorry about that last post OPSSS!

alsmost Master Lenny its more like

Guardian
Blue Lightsaber

Sentinel
Orange Lightsaber

Consular
Green Lightsaber

Shadow
Unkown.

as for healer and scholar.Well you might be right on the healer. However the scholars were mainly the jedi Counsular and the sentinel

I dont see any use for more than 3 and id just like to clarify they are classes.Classes if what you wish to be.They are not given.The classes have a color Lightsaber that is common for that class but it not a rule.Most of the time the classes or the color of the lightsaber is picked to honor the masters that jedi serve under.

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31 Jan 2008 18:43 #10803 by
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what is a sentinel ?

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31 Jan 2008 20:31 #10806 by
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Barhis wrote:

what is a sentinel ?


Sentinel:1a person or thing that watches or stands as if watching.
2a soldier stationed as a guard to challenge all comers and prevent a surprise attack

if you read the first part of the forum you'll see what a Jedi Sentinel is.

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31 Jan 2008 22:30 #10809 by Garm
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Don't ask where I got this info, I can't remember. I wrote it down in a notebook some time ago and failed to note the reference. Again it doesn't make it correct and we can create classifications and discriptions for our own use just as well any anyone.

Guardians:

Guardians focus n martial training and combat, They usually engage in combat more than any other Jedi class. Like all Jedi, they are keepers of the peace, acting as a kind of special police force for the republic. Notable Guardians include Obi-wan Knobi, Anakin Skywalker, and Mace Windu. (Note: I have seen Windu called a Sentinel as well) Gardians are loosely signified by blue lightsabers.

Consulars:

Consulars possess great knowledge of the force but rarely enter combat. Consulars are the primary scholars and diplomats of the Order, often becoming instructors. The most famous are Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn and Luke Skywalker. Consulars are losely signified by green lightsabers (there has been debate about Skywalkers type. Although he had a blue lightsaber andwas trained by Obi-Wan, who was a Guardian, Luke had further training from Yoda, which is probably what made him a Consular. Furthermore, the blue lightsaber he originally used was his father's, not his).

Sentinels:

Sentinels strike a balance between the first two typs, as they possess admirable combat skills with some extensive knowledge of the force. These are often dispatched to regions across the galaxy to work as ambassadors and investigators ofunusual concentrations of the force. Bastila Shan, Visas Marr, andPlo Koon are examples of this type. Sentinels are loosely signified by yellow or orange lightsabers but is not uncommon to see all the colors as many Jedi drift into this class after serving in another .

Healers:

Healers use the force in conjunction with holistic, medical and psychiatric training to help alleviate illness, pain, and suffering wherever the encounter it. They are sometimes assigned to med-centers, or mobile units on various worlds. Barris Offee is an example of a healer who served during the clone wars.

Scholar/Historian:

This Jedi chronicles the history of the Jedi.
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31 Jan 2008 22:36 #10810 by Garm
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This is a fun thread, I look forward to discovering how many classes we find, with the many references; films, comics, cartoons, novels we could gather lots of different views.

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01 Feb 2008 00:26 #10811 by
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What im trying to do is live up to my class/path.Im working on finding out ever thing i can about the force and the Jedi past.Maybe we can use some of it. Also im going to look into what right we have as far as teaching Martial arts and other skills pre med would be nice maybe some CQC and survival training. Thing like that could bring us some donations.^.^

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