Tai Chi Chuan - Wudang

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14 Dec 2013 09:08 #128675 by Whyte Horse
So I've been trying to find the Tai Chi I learned and it took over 1000 videos and only like 100 even resembled tai chi and out of those only 1 was the tai chi I recognize learning. The video calls it Wudan Tai Chi Chuan. I recognize the Tai Chi Chuan part and I recognize the Master Wu who taught me. This video is identical to the moves I learned. Any thoughts? Comments?

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14 Dec 2013 16:10 #128708 by
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I don't recognize some of those moves, but it is very fluid and the moves transition effortlessly. I may have to do some research about this form!
I took a class in college (so many years ago) from an exchange professor, and have never been able to find that exact sequence again. I have been thinking about finding a sequence that suits the Jedi way and putting together a video for us here.

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14 Dec 2013 17:41 #128717 by
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Why not make your own sequence that feels best for you?

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14 Dec 2013 17:45 #128718 by
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Why not make your own sequence that feels best for you?

WH very nice video.

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14 Dec 2013 19:22 #128737 by
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Whyte Horse wrote: So I've been trying to find the Tai Chi I learned and it took over 1000 videos and only like 100 even resembled tai chi and out of those only 1 was the tai chi I recognize learning. The video calls it Wudan Tai Chi Chuan. I recognize the Tai Chi Chuan part and I recognize the Master Wu who taught me. This video is identical to the moves I learned. Any thoughts? Comments?


Thanks for sharing Whyte Horse. I practice the 108 movements of Taoist Tai Chi but after seeing Master Wu's graceful movements, I better keep practicing. My Tai Chi resembles a pirate trying to keep his balance because of a his wooden leg. Lol!

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16 Dec 2013 20:23 #129094 by rugadd
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Making ones own sequence runs the risk of having your body memorize moves that will get you hurt in a real world application scenario. If you don't plan on using it as a martial art, then by all means, but you still run the risk of ingraining "bad habits".

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16 Dec 2013 21:38 #129110 by
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QiGong allows for flexibility with movements and sequence. There are 4,000 styles so it appears it is not to be as ridged as
Tai Chi.

Is Tai Chi a ridged system?

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17 Dec 2013 06:23 #129237 by Whyte Horse
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As far as I can tell, Tai Chi is muscle-memory training. So yes it's flexible but you really want to do all the 108 moves and if you do them out of sequence you have to stop, get into position, do your move, stop, etc. If you do them in sequence they flow together without stopping and you can practice and be done in like 10-20min. So if you make up some moves, you will be training your muscles to react that way naturally which could be a bad move in combat if it throws you off balance or something.

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17 Dec 2013 15:38 #129278 by
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I'm not being combative but is 108 moves the only way to do Tai Chi. I really don't know much about it except for reading some.

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17 Dec 2013 22:35 #129346 by Whyte Horse
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Rickie The Grey wrote: I'm not being combative but is 108 moves the only way to do Tai Chi. I really don't know much about it except for reading some.

I don't know, I'm not an expert. I do know that you can count the moves differently to get 64 moves, 113 moves, etc. I can be really simplified down to block-kick-punch-throw-etc. Lots of people have come up with variations that have no basis and some do have a basis like sword style. I'm sure this is just a coincidence but I found this:

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18 Dec 2013 20:12 #129506 by
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I'm more along these lines:

http://www.intuitiveqigong.com/

I do/will take instruction and training but currently I let the feel of energy flowing through my body direct itself to go where I need it the most. The movement that complements the energy is spontanious envisioned. It really a very cool experience.

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19 Dec 2013 03:18 #129577 by
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Rickie The Grey wrote: I'm not being combative but is 108 moves the only way to do Tai Chi. I really don't know much about it except for reading some.


I am actually trying to perfect this video. So no tai chi does not always have to be the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MxhAjv3YneM

My next project. Perhaps in my next lifetime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnc12Xl59Uw&feature=player_detailpage

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19 Dec 2013 05:45 #129586 by
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that's a great sword form Jayden!

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23 Dec 2013 20:47 #130224 by
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Wow, this is great stuff! Thank you guys so much for sharing. I've been trying to find a real fundamental Tai Chi teacher for a long time. But this will do just fine :)

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23 Dec 2013 23:14 #130232 by Jestor
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Forms are generally made by a GrandMaster, and this is how you recognize different schools, by simply watching forms...

My GM simplified the color belt forms in our school... It allows more time for sparring , and self defense...

To learn a system (I am an instructor), you need a starting point... Unless you are a Master, you should probably not be trying to make your own form...

The flow allows the practice to haveca rhythm, and increase the speed and strength with which one can hit their stances/moves...

Doing them in an order does not affect the practicality... lol...

Once you start seeing the forms in the self-defence, or the sparring move, things begin to click...

In the first black belt form in MooDukKwon in TaeKwonDo, there is a move we use all the time called "knife hand block/strike"... Then the hand rolls around the head, then an isometric punch from the other hand, to (now behind the imaginary head) hand...

Once the students realize where these steps actually fit, their eyes light up....

There's a reason why the forms arevas they are...:)

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