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14 Mar 2014 23:35 #141370 by
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I did karate for a year, about three years ago and I am therefore well aware that the instructor plays a huge role so suggesting a specific club could be the best way forward but any info is appreciated.

Anyway, I've decided I want to reach and then maintain a high level of fitness so I joined my local gym (finally making use of my student discount), I only managed to go for a week though before I sprained my ankle last weekend down at a local park. So whilst I'm bored waiting for the swelling to go down I'm just planning what I'll do when I get back and I am interested in starting a martial art again. Basically I'm looking for something that is focused on dexterity, endurance and mental strength. If it's any help I live in the South West of England.

Anyway I think this is my first proper post so, yeah, hello everybody :) and thanks in advance for any help you can give.

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15 Mar 2014 07:22 #141393 by
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Greetings Frost San Oss .

I'm across country from you South East . As am sure you are aware there are a great may Martial art clubs and societies around these days practicing the traditional arts as well as the 'modern' art forms.

From my own experience I think you just have to visit one or two and make up your own mind which one will benefit you as an individual.

If you ever find yourself over n Kent please drop by. I have a friend you has contacts all over the country so I will ask him f he knows of any down your way. a location would be helpful my friend :)

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15 Mar 2014 08:18 #141396 by
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When I was a teenager, we had a place in town called Police Athletic League, and they had 2 or 3 martial arts classes every day of the week. I got to participate in just about everyone of them over a 6 year period, and by the end I had developed in essence my own unique style. I recommend anyone take a class regardless of what it is, because you can always find some use in it.

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15 Mar 2014 08:50 #141397 by
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It's not a martial art but have you ever considered doing yoga (of a more intense style)? For endurance I think that can work, and it's great for flexibility and generally shaping up. It's also soft enough you could probably do it with a sprained ankle, just do the exercises and balancing more on one side if need be! I personally sometimes do PX90 Yoga with a video online which is fairly difficult.

Otherwise- I agree that the instructor makes a lot of difference. Have you ever thought about doing Jiu Jitsu? I live in England as well but up north (family lives down south-west though) so I know from experience and there is actually quite a large number of people and clubs across the country who do Jiu Jitsu. Depending on which group you join- it's intense, mentally and physically, punching and getting thrown so many times in 2 hours generally tires you out, and as you progress, you start practising for numerous opponents and have to disarm and "finish" them as quickly as possible before the next person comes (This is called a V- two lines of people like in a V, and an instructor at the front who taps for the next person to go and try to punch you). It's a self-defence martial art but it can get rather aggressive or so I've found. And each time you grade and get the next belt, more throws, wrist/arm (and eventually head) locks are introduced and more weapons. Mostly safe weapons like plastic bottles and rubber knives, but at least you'll know the basics if you're in the bar and someone loses it and comes at you with one!

Good luck and enjoy your journey wherever you go

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15 Mar 2014 09:11 #141398 by Kohadre
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From my experience, there is no one single application of martial arts which is so far elevated above other forms as to be called "The best". Each form has it's own unique advantages and disadvantages, which is why so many professional fighters know multiple forms of martial arts. One particularly useful yet overlooked martial art however is parkour, which is essentially the art of running away as quickly, and efficiently from a hostile situation.

Just my two cents.

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15 Mar 2014 13:42 #141412 by Zenchi
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Krav Maga, not saying it's "the best," but it's definitely up there....
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15 Mar 2014 14:30 #141414 by
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Vusuki wrote: It's not a martial art but have you ever considered doing yoga (of a more intense style)? For endurance I think that can work, and it's great for flexibility and generally shaping up. It's also soft enough you could probably do it with a sprained ankle, just do the exercises and balancing more on one side if need be! I personally sometimes do PX90 Yoga with a video online which is fairly difficult.

Otherwise- I agree that the instructor makes a lot of difference. Have you ever thought about doing Jiu Jitsu? I live in England as well but up north (family lives down south-west though) so I know from experience and there is actually quite a large number of people and clubs across the country who do Jiu Jitsu. Depending on which group you join- it's intense, mentally and physically, punching and getting thrown so many times in 2 hours generally tires you out, and as you progress, you start practising for numerous opponents and have to disarm and "finish" them as quickly as possible before the next person comes (This is called a V- two lines of people like in a V, and an instructor at the front who taps for the next person to go and try to punch you). It's a self-defence martial art but it can get rather aggressive or so I've found. And each time you grade and get the next belt, more throws, wrist/arm (and eventually head) locks are introduced and more weapons. Mostly safe weapons like plastic bottles and rubber knives, but at least you'll know the basics if you're in the bar and someone loses it and comes at you with one!

Good luck and enjoy your journey wherever you go


I might give some Yoga a go this afternoon if my ankle can take it thanks :).

Also you've really sold Jiu Jitso to me, I'll definitely looking into that!

Zenchi wrote: Krav Maga, not saying it's "the best," but it's definitely up there....
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/07/10/a-primer-on-krav-maga-the-combative-system-of-the-israeli-defense-forces/


Krav Maga was the one that interested me most from my own research, it's just the only local class is inconveniently timed and well not really that local. Still though, I will look into it more, thanks.

Kohadra wrote: From my experience, there is no one single application of martial arts which is so far elevated above other forms as to be called "The best". Each form has it's own unique advantages and disadvantages, which is why so many professional fighters know multiple forms of martial arts. One particularly useful yet overlooked martial art however is parkour, which is essentially the art of running away as quickly, and efficiently from a hostile situation.

Just my two cents.


Interesting idea and though it's not something I suspect I'll start with, it's certainly something I'll keep in mind for the future. :)

Thanks a lot all of you

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15 Mar 2014 23:57 #141449 by void
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I'm forever singing the praises of t'ai chi, as its one of the best internal arts for me, but there's no such thing as a "best" martial art. Each art's effectiveness is judged solely on the way your body is structured and the task to which you put it. I think t'ai chi is best for me in the circumstances you're discussing because it does a world of good for my balance, flexibility, and joints, at a gentle pace. Still, it's combat-effective if you fully realize what your body is doing.

Might work for you, might not. It's more move-y than Yoga, which is better on my poor knees.
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16 Mar 2014 00:11 #141450 by Zenchi
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steamboat28 wrote: I'm forever singing the praises of t'ai chi, as its one of the best internal arts for me, but there's no such thing as a "best" martial art. Each art's effectiveness is judged solely on the way your body is structured and the task to which you put it. I think t'ai chi is best for me in the circumstances you're discussing because it does a world of good for my balance, flexibility, and joints, at a gentle pace. Still, it's combat-effective if you fully realize what your body is doing.

Might work for you, might not. It's more move-y than Yoga, which is better on my poor knees.


My knees don't hurt because I do yoga...

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28 Mar 2014 20:46 #142919 by rugadd
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Northern Shaolin Gong Fu. But I say that because that is what I do. I find it suits my mind as well as my body. I'm told I would be better at San Da, but if I was going that route I would just go all the way and learn Muay Thai.

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28 Mar 2014 20:51 #142920 by
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I'm thinking about starting Kendo. Does anyone have any experiences with that or would you recommend it?

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29 Mar 2014 04:44 #142934 by
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Kendo is great if you like rules that will help you become more aware of chivalry in your everyday life. But it does tend to be rules heavy and doesn't lend itself to a free spirit type personality. I personally don't think it teaches one enough of swordplay to be effective in real combat. It's an external martial art with heavy emphasis on the internal.

If you are looking for something useable on the street while also training the spirit I would suggest Wing Chun. Depending on where you live it may be hard to find a lineage teacher.

And finally, if you just want the be the largest threat on the field you could try out Krav Maga. It is a medley of several martial arts. However the focus is on survival/winning so not much there for the spiritual seeker.

I don't know every martial art out there. But if you haven't already, rent some martial arts movies. IP Man series, anything with Sammo Hung, the Seven Samurai, The Protector, oh man the list could go on forever. Just watch the forms and see yourself doing them. Find a teacher for it and good luck. :-)

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29 Mar 2014 05:08 #142938 by RyuJin
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As Bruce Lee said " no one style has all the answers, you must seek out many styles, get many answers. Take what works for you and discard what doesn't."

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It's all about what you hope to take away from the style you learn. From Tai Chi, I learned patience because it was so slow and I wanted to learn everything and how it could be used in defense. When my teacher actually showed me the moves sped up, I was amazed. From Kung Fu, I learned to control my body because quite a lot of it requires certain postures and is very Confucian in nature as things have proper places and timings. Come to think of it, the name Confucianism comes from the original translation of K'ung-fu-tzu (pronounced 'gongfoodzuh'), so it only makes sense that Kung Fu takes this nature. As the Bruce Lee quote points out, learn all you can from as many styles as you can and use only that which suits your needs.

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Frost wrote: I did karate for a year, about three years ago and I am therefore well aware that the instructor plays a huge role so suggesting a specific club could be the best way forward but any info is appreciated.

Anyway, I've decided I want to reach and then maintain a high level of fitness so I joined my local gym (finally making use of my student discount), I only managed to go for a week though before I sprained my ankle last weekend down at a local park. So whilst I'm bored waiting for the swelling to go down I'm just planning what I'll do when I get back and I am interested in starting a martial art again. Basically I'm looking for something that is focused on dexterity, endurance and mental strength. If it's any help I live in the South West of England.

Anyway I think this is my first proper post so, yeah, hello everybody :) and thanks in advance for any help you can give.



Dexterity, endurance and mental strength you say? Why not give parkour a try. Urban free flow (if it still exists) has a pretty good write up on the philosophy of parkour. I am kinda knowledgeable on it so if you have any questions just ask or shoot me a pm.

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31 Mar 2014 00:21 #143058 by Whyte Horse
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Drunk style

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31 Mar 2014 00:29 #143059 by
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The best martial art is the one you train in. Its going to be 1000 % more fun, useful, and beneficial than the ones you dont.

Check out some schools, take some free classes, and pick the one you like best.

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19 Apr 2014 20:47 #144890 by
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I guess it depends on how you define, "best". If best just means the martial art that teaches you dexterity, endurance, and fitness then you may not be looking for a martial art at all (Aikido maybe). Yoga, Pilates (I have no idea how prevalent this is on your side of the pond), Kick-Boxing, or maybe join a jogger group?

I'm personally interested in Judo because it has always struck me as the least violent and most realistically helpful type of martial art (for someone like me). Lately, I've been wanting to get into it because it would help me get into shape, stay fit, and develop some physical discipline.

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Ve-Lo-Zi wrote: I'm thinking about starting Kendo. Does anyone have any experiences with that or would you recommend it?


I have been practicing Niten Ichi Ryu style Hyoho (in Niten Institute, here in Brazil) since I was 17 (I am 22).
Try it! It will be a unique experience!
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19 Apr 2014 23:12 #144910 by Proteus
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Extreme thumb wrestling...


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