Training outside of the Temple

In Br. John's interview with the Huffington Post, he says that not matter what sect of the Jedi you belong to, we are all Jedi. So, if one of us were to train under another master outside of TotJO, how would you guys feel about that ?

It wouldn't count for any points or any creadit what so ever here at TOTJO

But its no reason to NOT explore other venue's In my honest opinion. I personally encourage it and have had several Masters, Teachers, Students, Friends and Family outside of this temple.

Disclaimer: This is all just from my perspective and not the voice of TOTJO

From what i understood you can study whatever you want whereever you want and some here do , but the "Points" are not interchangeble , so you can be a Knight here and a Novice at another site. You can only become a Knight here when you succesfully went through Apprenticeship here , and that goes for some of the other sites aswell , but thats just what i gathered from the info i got here
Someone correct me if i am wrong ...

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Silas Mercury wrote: In Br. John's interview with the Huffington Post, he says that not matter what sect of the Jedi you belong to, we are all Jedi. So, if one of us were to train under another master outside of TotJO, how would you guys feel about that ?

When talking about a change of style/master: Back in the old days, moving to an other Ryū (within/outside the discipline) was like dishonoring your master and his philosophy. These days people are moving themselves everywhere, want to learn about something else? You can easily move away, and if you do not like it there, you can simply move back! Change for a Jedi can come as a second nature, for some it is not.

I may sound a little bit traditional.. But personally I have a strong value for loyalty, though it may not always be handy, staying in one way gives me some kind of assurance that I can focus myself. If I would move away to train under someone else, my mind would spin around way too much.. It can be good to explore things and study things outside the used ways for some.. Everyone is different and I appreciate that a lot. :blush:


~ Aqua

TOTJO is not the sole authority on being a jedi, but is one of many, lol...

I too felt like Aqua on the loyalty bit, but, I've never stopped others seeking knowledge away from here, because, quite honestly, its less about what the teacher/master wants, and more about what the student needs...

Lessons are everywhere, and a "good jedi" will see them, and learn from them....

At least as I see it....

~sent from the Hitchhiker's Guide, inside my GalaxyS7~

When I saw the title to this thread I thought it was referring to the 50%-99.9% we spend away from the Temple (apologies to those who spend more than half their existence here ). For most of us the majority of life takes place outside the Temple and life IS training, whether we realise it or not.

The whole point of a "Hero's Journey.." Is to actually get out there and run over many pot holes in the road

Just make sure your teacher is worth a damn.

Training outside the Temple vs. training at other "temples". I was on the wrong side of that when I first saw the topic title.

No one ever told me I had to walk away from my positions at other training sites in order to study here, and it's not like I made it a secret that I study elsewhere as well.

But I don't see it as a loyalty thing, and certainly not as disrespect to any other site at which I am or have been a member. As was stated earlier, different schools emphasize different things. (Warning: I'm about to throw around a couple of labels, just to illustrate a point. Doesn't mean I adhere to them all that much.) I worked on the "realist" bit of the Path for a long while before I was ready to embrace the "-ism" part of the Path. What changed in me was a desire to ensure that I was training the spirit as much as the mind and body.

I chose to study here because the structure of this temple lends legitimacy to the titles that are earned. If a person is a knight in this order, I feel that I can trust their leadership because of what they go through to become a knight. While I agree with what Aqua said about the disrespectful nature of seeking another teacher, I also see the value of a Jedi being able to draw from the larger pool of life for lessons and experience. After all, as I have stated before, my first loyalty is to Christ and the Force, then to this order, then to whatever vehicle through which the Force would show me a truth.

Loudzoo wrote: When I saw the title to this thread I thought it was referring to the 50%-99.9% we spend away from the Temple (apologies to those who spend more than half their existence here ).

I'll have a real girl friend one of these days lol

Loudzoo wrote: For most of us the majority of life takes place outside the Temple and life IS training, whether we realise it or not.

yeah, thats what I was going to say

Jestor wrote: TOTJO is not the sole authority on being a jedi, but is one of many, lol...

I too felt like Aqua on the loyalty bit, but, I've never stopped others seeking knowledge away from here, because, quite honestly, its less about what the teacher/master wants, and more about what the student needs...

Lessons are everywhere, and a "good jedi" will see them, and learn from them....

At least as I see it....

Knowledge is like sight, if you have healthy working eyes you cannot force yourself to not see with open eyes. Guess that the same could be said about knowlegde.. if I find something on my path, I cannot move myself around it..
But what I tried to say ( and I failed a little bit in doing :blush: ) I do enjoy the 'freedom' of that what is studied.. it is like a library, I try to choose one library.. but it contains multiple books! Within this massive space there is room to move around, and I can even to go and walk towards the door of an other library to seek out some books.. only thing is that I will not enter there because I already have my library.

The point thingy thing is that I want to keep one style, but the chosen style is not limited in knowledge or training material that can be found inside. Same can be said about the old ways, but I will not mention it in this post because I can be so confusing sometimes.. Sorry! :laugh:

Please do train outside TotJO, and please share your new realizations with us!

Enlightened-self-interest leads me to believe that if you "improve" yourself somewhere, it's better for us everywhere...

You never know when a lesson will materialize and cannot predict whom the vessel. Just accept it when you notice!

***Edit, that is not an official TotJO message, just my opinion ****

I am very much into the idea of outside Temple tranning, I've always wanted to have a group in my state to meet up and talk, discuss, learn, possibly connect Master to Apprentice. As much as I love this community so far id love to see people work together face to face.

Thanks for all your replies - but what about having more than one Master ?

In the Temple... I'm not sure we are structured that way...

In the real world... dude, I have many teachers and many students.
It's the differences that some times can make the bigger picture.
My Jedi ism allows many different forms and beliefs to exist so... I have many masters.

Silas Mercury wrote: Thanks for all your replies - but what about having more than one Master ?

Have as many as you like. Just don't expect any of the work you do with a Master outside of this temple to count here....its all counted seperate.

Trisskar wrote:

Silas Mercury wrote: Thanks for all your replies - but what about having more than one Master ?

Have as many as you like. Just don't expect any of the work you do with a Master outside of this temple to count here....its all counted seperate.

Nor what you do here to count outside of here...

Its not that we are all against each other, its that we dont know each other's curriculum, and training....

We are beginning to cross lines with that, but, its been a few years in the making, and will probably be many more before anything official gets recognized, if ever...

Jestor wrote:

Trisskar wrote:

Silas Mercury wrote: Thanks for all your replies - but what about having more than one Master ?

Have as many as you like. Just don't expect any of the work you do with a Master outside of this temple to count here....its all counted seperate.

Nor what you do here to count outside of here...

Its not that we are all against each other, its that we dont know each other's curriculum, and training....

We are beginning to cross lines with that, but, its been a few years in the making, and will probably be many more before anything official gets recognized, if ever...

Ah well in our hearts we should all stay wee Novices anyway i believe , no matter how high we climb up in rank anywhere , in the end its just vanity a forever student , thats my dream :laugh: