Who is the Force?

Of course, we can't define what the Force is, as we can't define God, Dao, or anything "up there". Yet, there is always some room for description. I was thinking about it, quite strangely, after watching Disney's 'Pocahontas', especially the quite well-known part with 'Colours of the Wind'. I started to think if what Pocahontas is singing about might not be somehow connected with the Force; after all, she sings about powers lying both in our world and beyond it and the way it manifests itself through many things, in this case, nature.

When I hear gregorian chant, I know I feel something bigger than me. When I look into the infinite cosmos, I know how small I am compared to the Cosmos. When I see dervishes during semazen I know that they know.

There is a mystery.

When do you feel that you just got a clue about it?

I always say this when discussion is about super human things, "You can not prove them, you can not deny them, you need to believe in them, or not, and that's up to you!"

But I, myself, love the way Alan Watts describe Jediism in his book "The Book" which is a part of IP. He describe that super human power in the best way possible.

I like the pocahontas bit and I definitely agree it could be used to describe the force. It's all around us, right?

As for me. I feel I have a clue to what the force is when I take the time to try and move my own energy. Up or down the body, trying to share good vibes with a friend, or maybe soaking some in from the world around me. It's kind of weird and fun to try. There's definitely something there (whether psychosomatic or not).

A quick way to experience it is by bringing your fingertips near each other, concentrate on pushing energy up into them, and then try to make it leap the gap and cycle between your two hands like waves.

Wendaline wrote: A quick way to experience it is by bringing your fingertips near each other, concentrate on pushing energy up into them, and then try to make it leap the gap and cycle between your two hands like waves.

I can't remember if it's the great jedi holocron or the grand book of the sith, but one of them describes this very technique as a way to develop your affinity....

I personally feel the force when I intentionally try to "recenter" myself. In times of great tension, conflict, or anxiety, I easily freak out. But usually I realize that I am freaking out, and switch my objectives to recentering myself. I repeat a varying mantra to the force as if it were my guardian: something like, "Where are you, force? Find me.....bond with me....merge with me.....lend me strength...". You'll be surprised how easy it is to calm down doing this.

"I Am the Force, and So Are You", by William Kaede.

Largely a Satanic concept, self-deification comes from a well-made point; if Man creates god(s) in his own image, then why not go one step further and pronounce myself as the god of my life? It doesn’t necessarily mean that I believe I have superpowers, but it just means that I recognise the control I have over my own life and my values. It’s a fairly self-centred philosophy, but then again, so is Satanism. To quote Magus Peter H. Gilmore’s essay “What, the Devil?“, found in The Satanic Scriptures…

“Since our philosophy is self-centered, each Satanist sees himself as the most important person in his life. Each individual thus generates his own hierarchy of values and judges everything based on his own standards. Therefore, we Satanists appoint ourselves as the “Gods” in our subjective universes. That doesn’t mean we think we have the powers of a mythological deity, but it does mean that we revere the creative capacity in our species. “

Returning to the title; “I Am The Force”. Let’s break down the Sith Code for a moment.

“Peace is a Lie, there is only Passion.
Through Passion I gain Strength,
Through Strength I gain Power,
Through Power I gain Victory.
Through Victory, my Chains are Broken.
The Force shall free me.“

So that’s my passion, my strength, my power and my victory, breaking my chains. It says “the Force shall free me.” By my reckoning, I am the Force. I am the ruling power in my life, and at the very end of things, ultimately I make the choices. There isalways a choice. The alternative option to a current predicament may not be a good one, but it’s still there. For every choice there is a consequence, and bad choices tend to have bad consequences. It’s my choices in life that’ve driven me to where I am now. Sure, those around me have influence but at the very last point, I have the last say on my decisions.

I am the Force, and so are you.

Here is another answer to this question From my journal

Sajjad Heydari wrote: ...

I started to ask myself, what do I want to learn? My answer was... "The Truth." But, as I read at TIMUS contest, "For every problem there is always an easy, fast wrong answer!" and that's "The truth"

What I'm really seeking is not truth, probably. I want to learn how to live in this life, first. And that's another fast easy wrong answer. So...

Then, I looked at url of website ( I have it open most of the times I'm using computer ) Temple of The Jedi Order... Jedi... I wanted to be a Jedi. Why? To find the Force, perhaps. From my past studies, in school, I've been told that Allah-or God- is a kind super power, no one is better than it. But if you stop following it, that nice super power, will turn into the cruelest thing in world. It will use your body as a fuel in hell. It...

But The Force, ... it is different. It is me, it is you, it is not what is beyond this world, but, it is inside this world, it is this world. It is everywhere, and nowhere. You can see it in a rock, if you want, or in a complex lineral algebra figure, or in your inner voice. It is me, and I am it. It is the world, so I am the world. I don't have these feelings for Allah, or God. They are mean... Although they are same, but they have been described in this way...

So, I want to be a Jedi, to be closer to Force, although It is closer to me than my neck veins, but it is unfamiliar. As my brain, it is me, but I don't know it well. I guess Jediism is the best way to know The Force. That's why I'm here.

I know the way, now. To learn the way of Force, to learn how Force is working, to learn how should I use it, to ... I guess, by this way, there is no different who my mentor would be. As "For every human being, there is a unique way of reaching to The Force"

I can generate a certain type of non-focus in nature, where I release my attention and judgement and just focus on my own ability to be be open and just myself... if done right I can reach this sort of state where everything around me becomes sort of free. I can see everything moving individually in a unified dance and it feels like my senses have tuned into the living Force. Its usually so powerful it makes my eyes water etc. Works best in moderate breeze sitting on the lee side of a crest so tree tops are moving but you do not directly feel the breeze. It might not be the Force but it feels like connecting to it.

Who is the Force?

Who is not the Force?

Look around you. Look within. Everywhere and everything is a clue. And yet they are forever hidden to those who do not understand. Understanding comes when you let go. But therein lies the trap. You cannot let go until you realize there is nothing to let go of.

All that's left is simply to have a good laugh :laugh:

Though being a humble novice I myself feel the Force when I meditate or when I am exercising. One such exercise is to place my palms some distance away and gather energy between them. With practice this energy "ball" has become more powerful and far stronger. It vibrates and I experience everything around me differently. I can even turn my hands toward empty space and feel the energy, the Force, all around me. If I am deep in this meditation I can feel how dense and solid space really is. You cannot feel it normally but it is like we are moving under water.

I am most apt to agree with the wording of Streen.

There is nothing that is not the Force, and that should make you feel incredibly insignificant and incredibly significant.

At the same time.

Connor Lidell wrote: I am most apt to agree with the wording of Streen.

There is nothing that is not the Force, and that should make you feel incredibly insignificant and incredibly significant.

At the same time.

Well said! Can you relate to what I experienced during my most recent exercises? I am quite interested to know whether more experienced individuals and veteran teachers experience this the same way. Also if this experience becomes more intense.

I was going to address the tag by my name, but I would rather let my response speak for itself.

On with the response:

You are referring to the hand trick, yes? An interesting manifestation of the affinity we all have for the Force. When I say that all bodies are the Force, this is what I mean:

If I take the outline of my body, and I remove the invisible black lines that makes my guts spill into the universe, I am no less the Force than I was before. I'm also no "more" the Force than I was before.

Your body is a conduit of Nature because you have evolved to be able to "sense" it. Just as you've evolved to use the Kinetic energy available in the Universe to help you move, you have also evolved to be able to similarly comprehend the energies that can be manipulated. it just takes practice.

So, when you put your hands close together and make a Psi Ball, or an energy ball, or a Force Ball, or whatever, you are using your body as a conduit for the energy to flow directionally rather than simply willy nilly.

There is a wonderful esoteric group that practices Neigong. This is kind of like Qigong, but very different if you are studying both. maynoth, a guest in the community, but a representative of this field, brought the knowledge to this forum. Yet, while many have not accepted it, I will be the first to say that it is a viable field. Well, anyway, they talk about Yin and Yang energies. They talk about how we have more of one kind of energy within us, and we need to bring balance to these energies. mmm. It's powerful stuff, I know. To think there are different "kinds" of energies out there has been hard for this group and most others to accept. We all think energy is EVERYWHERE. Within and through all of us. And, this is true! We ARE everywhere. But, just as a glass can be filled with two kinds of sand: there may be no air, but the two stay separate and still fill the whole glass.

You are modifying the types of energies around your body during this exercise, giving it direction. Moving the sand around in your glass. This creates heat. Whenever you do energy work, it will be with heat. haha. So, my friend, keep going! Learn to manipulate your energies.

I may go and try this Mo Pai Level one myself. It's been a long time since I manipulated energy so freely. It's not something I've seriously worked on. But, maybe I should...

Connor Lidell wrote: I was going to address the tag by my name, but I would rather let my response speak for itself.

On with the response:

You are referring to the hand trick, yes? An interesting manifestation of the affinity we all have for the Force. When I say that all bodies are the Force, this is what I mean:

If I take the outline of my body, and I remove the invisible black lines that makes my guts spill into the universe, I am no less the Force than I was before. I'm also no "more" the Force than I was before.

Your body is a conduit of Nature because you have evolved to be able to "sense" it. Just as you've evolved to use the Kinetic energy available in the Universe to help you move, you have also evolved to be able to similarly comprehend the energies that can be manipulated. it just takes practice.

So, when you put your hands close together and make a Psi Ball, or an energy ball, or a Force Ball, or whatever, you are using your body as a conduit for the energy to flow directionally rather than simply willy nilly.

There is a wonderful esoteric group that practices Neigong. This is kind of like Qigong, but very different if you are studying both. maynoth, a guest in the community, but a representative of this field, brought the knowledge to this forum. Yet, while many have not accepted it, I will be the first to say that it is a viable field. Well, anyway, they talk about Yin and Yang energies. They talk about how we have more of one kind of energy within us, and we need to bring balance to these energies. mmm. It's powerful stuff, I know. To think there are different "kinds" of energies out there has been hard for this group and most others to accept. We all think energy is EVERYWHERE. Within and through all of us. And, this is true! We ARE everywhere. But, just as a glass can be filled with two kinds of sand: there may be no air, but the two stay separate and still fill the whole glass.

You are modifying the types of energies around your body during this exercise, giving it direction. Moving the sand around in your glass. This creates heat. Whenever you do energy work, it will be with heat. haha. So, my friend, keep going! Learn to manipulate your energies.

I may go and try this Mo Pai Level one myself. It's been a long time since I manipulated energy so freely. It's not something I've seriously worked on. But, maybe I should...

I started practicing this exercise before I ever found Jediism. It was beginning this practice that caused me to rethink everything I thought I knew about reality. This becomes more than heat as it becomes electric in nature. At least that is how I feel it. I can feel this sensation in my hands as the energy becomes stronger with practice. I believe that over time this energy will become harder to contain in that small space and I will have to broaden my horizons again. I wonder at times what is and is not possible. Is everything possible? Perhaps. We will all find out some day.

Elaborating on that: The energy becomes more electric in nature when I move the energy or my hands. Perhaps this is how one can create electricity with their body? I have heard that chi healing works in a similar way. Body electricity heals anomalies. Some healers transfer this electricity to the patient?

Everything is possible with enough time. Too bad it could take 5 million years to grow wings.

Elaborating on that: The energy becomes more electric in nature when I move the energy or my hands. Perhaps this is how one can create electricity with their body? I have heard that chi healing works in a similar way. Body electricity heals anomalies. Some healers transfer this electricity to the patient?

hahah. Yes. Your body runs on electricity as much as the rest of the universe does. Your bio-electricity is the reason you can remember anything, nonetheless FEEL anything in the first place... Your bio-energy does have healing powers.

True! I will keep everyone updated with my own studies. Learning to communicate with nature through the Force is something that I have a great interest in. Even these small steps I have taken over the past few years are quite exciting.

I love that song (seriously, it's one of the few I'll sing for Karaoke- or if I happen to be background musicless)

I don't see "the Force" as an entity, but as that scientific concept we call energy (which still isn't quite fully understood). When I think of the song, "Colours of the Wind" and relate it to "the Force", I see the "colors" as being more of what "the Force" is. "Colors" are simply the way the song can relate it to something we can see in and feel more tangibly.

My fellow acolytes,
You have all seen glimpses of what is.
All at points on the path.
So few, reading the sign posts.
ALL, correct. None at their destination.

Kalkho wrote: There is a mystery.

When do you feel that you just got a clue about it?

Right now.

Kalkho wrote: When do you feel that you just got a clue about it?

During meditation when I'm deeply relaxed I feel expanded and unlimited,