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Heaven, Hell, Re-incarnation?
What i belive is that heaven and hell does not exist, if it does it is something we create ourselves
Let us say that after death you go to another plane, and depending on how you think that plane will be diffrent
If you are hatefull and angry the plane will be the same and if you are loving and happy your plane will be like that, wich means that those two planes are like heaven and hell.. Or maybe more like darkness and light
With other words, it would be a reflection of who you are
What i belive is that you never die and that you don't go to an eternity of torture or heavenly pleasures depending on your choices in life, rather that you live on forever, as i see it, through the force.
Death, Yet the force
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Thats about it.
Life will go on, as it does, for a time, until this planet eventually dies, and our sun,etc.
Nothing lasts forever, and just as I dont see an afterlife for our star, I dont see one for myself either.
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Khaos wrote: After I die I will be cremated, and will be put into an urn. When my wife dies she will be cremated, and her ashes will be put with mine and they will be buried together. It doesnt matter much where.
Thats about it.
Life will go on, as it does, for a time, until this planet eventually dies, and our sun,etc.
Nothing lasts forever, and just as I dont see an afterlife for our star, I dont see one for myself either.
I must say i can't agree here
Everything isn't just "this"
There are many things that are yet to be proven, true
But life after death is a large possibility
As i belive in the force, i also belive in life with the force
And to live after i leave this plane, either one with the force or just.. One with the universe
You need not belive me
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They.. Float on?Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?
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I try to just focus on my life in this world. I'll worry about what's next when I get there.
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Adi Vas wrote: I don't think it matters. Whether a conscious afterlife, unconscious afterlife or nothing awaits us, it has no bearing on this world.
I try to just focus on my life in this world. I'll worry about what's next when I get there.
Well said
My intrest of things spand further then this life though, maybe even further then the next
That does not mean i do not live in the now, wich i do
But curiousity is always good
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They.. Float on?Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?
Close... keep at it. Really Observe here.
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Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
They.. Float on?Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?
Close... keep at it. Really Observe here.
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words
Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?
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Bareus wrote:
Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
They.. Float on?Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?
Close... keep at it. Really Observe here.
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words
Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?
What are the waves part of? Where did they come from? (its not really so symbolic, its more simple than you think)
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Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
They.. Float on?Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?
Close... keep at it. Really Observe here.
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words
Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?
What are the waves part of? Where did they come from?
They are part of the sea, or the ocean
And they are created from the wind
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Bareus wrote:
Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
They.. Float on?Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?
Close... keep at it. Really Observe here.
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words
Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?
What are the waves part of? Where did they come from?
They are part of the sea, or the ocean
And they are created from the wind
When a wave is done "waving", where does it go?
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House of Orion
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The Book of Proteus
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Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
Hmm.. I kind of understand the symbolism (if you intend it to be symbolism)Proteus wrote:
Bareus wrote:
They.. Float on?Proteus wrote: Watch the ocean. What are the waves doing?
Close... keep at it. Really Observe here.
Yet i can't seem to find. The right words
Maybe, the waves just float on, almost regardless of Circumstances and they don't worry about what happeneds in a day, a week etc. They just keep floating?
What are the waves part of? Where did they come from?
They are part of the sea, or the ocean
And they are created from the wind
When a wave is done "waving", where does it go?
Back into the ocean?
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Ah.. I understand
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That's the illusion of self. There's no "you" to leave your body.What do you belive happends after you leave your body /after death?
Exactly.Death, Yet the force
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Long story short nothing in the universe is created nor destroyed, but always flow in a continuous motion.
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I must say i can't agree here
Everything isn't just "this"
There are many things that are yet to be proven, true
But life after death is a large possibility
As i belive in the force, i also belive in life with the force
And to live after i leave this plane, either one with the force or just.. One with the universe
You need not belive me
Uhhh, you dont have to believe me either, but I think the question was, what "I" believe happens when we die.
Whether you agree or not is irrelevant.
What has yet to be proven true is also irrelevant. What we have proof of so far points to the possibility, whether it exists or not to be unlikely.
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What happens to ice cubes in a glass of water?
We are ice cubes.
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First of all, lets lighten up. These are beliefs, and they are no more valid than anyone elses, but they are beliefs, not facts, and people need to remember that. I don't care if it is the opinion of everyone else here that we like waves, simply return to the ocean after we die, I don't necessarily disagree. I notice members assuming their right, not entirely describing why they think the way they do, or the process for that matter, or simply winking as if that means their right. We don't have to agree, but lets keep thing's in perspective...
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After I die, I will be cremated. This is my wifes wish also.
Our ashes will be placed together.
As it is stated in our will.
Our planet is finite, so is our star.
Sure, there my beliefs, but there are also facts.
Anything else would be mere speculation.
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