Sithism...

However again, I try to avoid jail. Moreso now that I have attachments in my life I cannot bear to lose.

"Suffice to say I have harmed others for my me first and felt good about it. Hell at one time it was a full time job."

Good for you Khaos, here's you're medal.....

I have only one thing to lose.....freedom....jail sux plain and simple...I'll do whatever it takes to stay out...within my standards....

I'm sensing shades of anti-social personality disorder....I have several of the signs myself ...however I refuse to acknowledge it as a valid "disorder"

I simply don't like to follow the herd

Khaos wrote: Ah, now I must quantify how evil I am? To what point? So you can tell me I'm not?

See this is how it goes. I say what it is that makes me evil, and then ensues the relativism(mostly moral) to justify how I am not.

Who this justification is for I am not sure.

Justification of how I am or am not evil is not something I need waste my time with.

Suffice to say I never have expected jedi to be 100% good.

Though I wouldn't say they aren't good.

I also wouldn't ask them to tell me what is good about them either.

Suffice to say Sith philosophy isn't just about me first. Its me first even at your expense,hell especially at your expense.

Suffice to say I have harmed others for my me first and felt good about it. Hell at one time it was a full time job.

Thank you Khaos.

None of those complex issues were on my mind but I appreciate you going to the trouble of imagining ulterior motives and diabolical scenarios.

Someone says, "I saw a scary movie". I ask, "What's scary about it?" That's all.

Khaos wrote:

But you are removing labels, and that is controversial for many....

Ive seen none here remove labels. Just have the preference for there own. Which of
Course will cause controversy.

Really?

Well, you are kinda new here...

I use terms that people understand, like we all do, to communicate with others...

But, I'm pretty sure you won't find me applying labels.... lol...

As far as labels go, I thought you didn't consider yourself a Sith? Just a follower of the "dark path"? I really don't care, I was just surprised you responded in to that statement..

Sometimes we justcsk questions to understand, such as Br. John's question....

We do want to examine, to compare ourselves to...

But never to tear your beliefs up, but it is true that does often happen...

Rickie wrote: Someone claiming to be a sith but nt evil?

Here we go again...define.....

Are jedi 100% good?

One man's good is another's evil.

Evil is more than a red lightsaber.

evil is subjective. im sure to enemy combatants, myself and other soldiers are evil. the converse is also true.

If someone wants to call themselves a sith, or a "darkie", that's all fine. Just be careful when making a website or community that the average person may easily misunderstand, take the wrong way, and potentially put a big bullseye over your head for authorities to investigate you when a hate crime or terrorist group strikes, because the communities doctrine promotes (or at a glance seems to promote) "anger", "hate", "pain", "suffering", etc. That is always one thing I cringe at when I run into sites like that. There are likely a number of them out there that can make, what many of you consider a true sith, or darkie, look bad.

Proteus wrote: If someone wants to call themselves a sith, or a "darkie", that's all fine. Just be careful when making a website or community that the average person may easily misunderstand, take the wrong way, and potentially put a big bullseye over your head for authorities to investigate you when a hate crime or terrorist group strikes, because the communities doctrine promotes (or at a glance seems to promote) "anger", "hate", "pain", "suffering", etc. That is always one thing I cringe at when I run into sites like that. There are likely a number of them out there that can make, what many of you consider a true sith, or darkie, look bad.

It's all in the eyes of the beholder.

Despite seemingly opposite philosophies, I've found that jedi and sith are much more alike than they are different. The difference between the two, rather than a complete opposition, are more akin to the differences between Catholicism and Protestant Christianity. As a matter of fact, I've jumped around from one label to the next, not because I found a real difference between the two, but because it was more palatable to others, who would otherwise not know how to relate to me only because of semantics.

Usually (and this is my observation only) newcomers to both jedi and sith philosophies enter their newfound religion in an almost fanatic fashion: the jedi try hard to dominate their emotions - even if that means simply surpressing them - and feel obligated to engage in some sort of crusade to save the world; on the other hand, the sith are hell bent on drawing attention to their aggressiveness and individualism.

Once people get past that initial stage, jedi start to discard the supression and self-imposed altruism, and sith discard the aggression and self-proclaimed dominance, and start simply being themselves. Past that point, the lines blur, and jedi and sith are almost completely alike, though I would point out as the main difference is that jedi still seem to hang on to their commitment towards utilitarianism while sith hang on to individualism.

But people keep seeing a contradiciton, a clash of opposites, when it's simply two aspects of the same Force, two sides to the same coin.