And you wonder why we don't always want to make outside contacts...

Wow...wow...I just read the Facebook responses.We all have the same goal,lets not bicker about how we reach it...unless I interpreted all of that wrong which is very possible :woohoo:
LOL Br.John is too funny.ROTFL

He Heeee.

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I'm not aware of any of us trashing other Jedi or other Jedi organizations. If somebody is, who are they are where are they doing it? I have a hard time imagining any of our members doing that. Why would they? Why would they want to?

I admit it. It's me. Guilty as charged. I'm such a horrible person you see...

Hahahaha.

I, too, struggle to think that any of our dedicated, regular members would be trashing other organisations.

And Kitsu...as far as I'm aware, and from what I've seen over my time here, TOTJO is perfectly happy to open itself up to criticism. It's unfair and unprovoked attacks based on personal grudges and no real experience of the Temple that we're not so keen on...

Hmm I guess they could mean CoJ and NJO?

Kitsu Tails wrote: If your going to quote me. You may as well say who it is

" I DO NOT view temple of the Jedi Order as JEDI. I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER....EVER....go through TOTJO for anything legal of Jedi. There beliefs and practice are completely OPPOSET from my beliefs of Jedi. They will not touch me."

Hi. I am Kitsu Tails...the quote above is mine. And so that there is no confusion....if you read said quote you will see that I said "Anything Legal" and "My version" I believe I have full rights to that opinion and doesn't say anything about the site and it's members. I have known several members here for several years and just like you guys ghost FB...I often ghost the forums Hi.

"Anything Legal" That implies the fact that I would never ordain myself through TOTJO. That did not however say that I would never visit the forums, discuss topics, and interact with members. I believe I should be able to do all that without being ordained by you. Is this inaccurate?

"My Version" I do not believe in your codes, rituals, ranking system, and education system. There for it would be accurate in saying that Your version and My version are by far not the same. That however does not mean that I wont refer people to this website were I to find a member that would fit in here and searching for a community, or as said above...Interact with your members.

If you, as a community, cannot accept criticism and diversity of opinions then perhaps it is good that you all sit here in seclusion and not put yourself "in the line of fire" However, if you as a community seek means of improvment and accept opposing thoughts, you might find that by interacting with those who do not agree....you could learn something and quite possibly make a new friend

May The Force Be With You.
~Bows

Hello Kitsu!

I say Mindas on here not too long ago, and saw the pics of the kids at the gathering..

Goodness, they are getting big! The kids, not Mindas... lol...

I just wanted to chime in here real quick and say,

Yes, you are most definetly allowed an opinion, as you well know...

I think it was the venom that leaked into your words that shocked me the most...

That's ok, I forgive you.... ... lol..

I don't understand why it is you don't view us as Jedi, but, that's for another thread...

I would like to say a few words:

"I am a Jedi, an instrument of peace..." That being said, I do not and will not respect "organizations" or "groups" because they are organizations or groups. I will respect people. I would like to say, with as much emotion as I can muster, that the people in this community (TOTJO) that I have met are SERIOUS about becoming Jedi and living by the principles of the path they set. As a collective community (All sites and groups combined), we do not have standards which can be applied to all so that all can be respected regardless of site without any question. I hope, as a Jedi, that I can bring this about. Unfortunately, I do not have as much experience as others in the Jedi community. There are people saying they have been on the path for at least a decade. Really, I would prefer that they be the ones to bring this about. To do this,we must let go of the individual and the ego, we must forgo petty arguments about who is right and wrong and we must respect what each individual and organization brings to the table. For we all are Jedi, with a similar goal: to be better and better Jedi each day.

We are still young in the Force. We can chose to chart a path of love and acceptance and thereby evolve, or we can let or disagreements cloud our judgement and be seen as a community who had great potential, but couldn't get over itself.

Note: this post is directed at no one. Just simply some food for thought.

"we must let go of our ego". - Roz.

Sums it up quite nicely.

Can anyone name a great person, idea or movement that's universally respected or even deemed good?

Ghandi maybe...

nope.