Donation to the Temple

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11 Dec 2010 13:51 #35042 by
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As for John's post, one can always show up to one of our eight Chapters and talk to one of our Ministers, who will be able to clarify any questions one has. Or alternatively, one can email us, call us or look at our online Doctrine: www.churchofjediism.org.uk/doctrine.html

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11 Dec 2010 14:34 #35046 by Br. John
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baralfobre wrote:

As for John's post, one can always show up to one of our eight Chapters and talk to one of our Ministers, who will be able to clarify any questions one has. Or alternatively, one can email us, call us or look at our online Doctrine: www.churchofjediism.org.uk/doctrine.html

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Like I said about http://www.churchofjediism.org.uk/doctrine.html there is no substance. Why should someone have to travel thousands of miles to talk to a minister? Why should an email be necessary?

The entire point is the only real Temple is within you or you'll find it nowhere else.

Even the Evil Westboro Baptist Church at http://godhatesfags.com as despicable as they are do tell what they are about and what they believe with a wealth of information.

I say it is because there is no substance to put there. It's all crust and no filling like an air pie. Sheeeet! I can hardly find the crust.

My opinion and the official position of TOTJO is that the Holyhead CoJ Ltd / cyf is NOT a Jediism organization by any stretch of the imagination.

You finally admitted that people make mistakes and that your Charter was a mistake so why not correct the blasted thing? When everyone who reads the first few pages sees that you cannot have but one member you pull the \"Church of Jediism Members Association\" out of thin air but nowhere is it named on your site or Facebook or anywhere else.

Pardon the strong language Gentle Readers but NO, NO, BICARBONATE OF SODA NO. We are not with you in any sense. You have noting to do with Jediism other than giving it a bad reputation at every single media opportunity.

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11 Dec 2010 14:44 #35047 by Angelus
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If a collective group of people doesn't want your money, then you won't change their minds. It's the thought that counts and I have known many of the Council members for a long time and can honestly tell you that they are grateful, so let's just leave it at that, okay?

MTFBWY all.

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11 Dec 2010 14:55 #35051 by
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John, read the 'Contact' page: http://churchofjediism.org.uk/contact.html This has been up there since I think October:

\"Church of Jediism Members Association (COJMA)
The C.O.J.M.A. is a body of members that constitute the full entity of the Church of Jediism members. The C.O.J.M.A. have regular meetings and contact with the Shadow Council. All members who join the Church of Jediism are automatically accepted in to the Members' Association. A Chairperson and group of representatives is elected yearly.\"

Hope this is helpful along with our donation.

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11 Dec 2010 15:52 #35057 by
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Well Thats a statement and a half. We all walk this path just in different ways. How we found this path is of no matter, its more important that now we're on this journey we do the best towards others and those that we encounter along the road of life.

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11 Dec 2010 15:57 #35058 by
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Yes, Sammy.
The arguments etc. do not matter - so long as the work we do is for the good of mankind, only good will ultimately come of this. I'm sure others will agree.

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11 Dec 2010 20:10 #35065 by Angelus
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The good of mankind is inconsequential with regards to this whole problem. The decision is ultimately up to the Council, the governing body of the Temple, so why challenge them?

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12 Dec 2010 10:54 #35072 by
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I said my last was my last - but as many have said - the council and many Seniors who are NOT a part of the council as such (but have a casting vote in the case of deadlocks) which include but not limited to BrJohn and myself - overwhelmingly voted to return the monies (and note it was not a 100% no vote).

Now we DID AND DO appreciate the gesture - this too has already been stated but we feel given the past/present 'situation' that acceptence of this 'gift' would be deemed unsuitable by some. I also suggested that the money could be used to benefit an organisation that does need it.

I also feel the need to point out that returning funds using the paypal system actually costs us more money - so we are not only returning the sums of $40 each time - but also having to spend additional $'s to pay paypal for their services.

So please, respect our wishes and please Baral/CoJ, please do not donate to us.

Thank You and MTFBWY - A

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12 Dec 2010 17:11 #35080 by
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Kana, I deliberately ticked the box when donating which says we shall pay the transfer fees etc., however this must not have worked for some reason.

I understand this was a unanimous decision and it's interesting you said it was not a 100% vote. May I ask what the percentage was, exactly?

The $40 we offered twice to you is always here if you need it - we're brothers in this Jediism community and we'll do our best to help you out, as we will other Jediism organisations.

I hope your condition improves, Kana - I am wishing you the best, and of course may the Force be with you always.

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12 Dec 2010 17:37 #35081 by
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probably 98% No to keep it and 2 % Yes to keep it

however the reasons to return WERE completely agreed with 100%.

My 'condition' is ultimately terminal - but so is life in general ;)

MTFBWY - A

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