UFO'S

Earlier this morning I watched a program on the History Channel about pilots and their encounter with UFO's. They had recordings of air craft pilots talking to air traffic control about seeing UFO's. It also had video footage of a reporter near New Zealand in the 70's having filmed UFO (space craft) flying a few thousand feet from their plane. It also had recording of the pilot along with Air Traffic Control confirming that their was something on there radar and it was very large and was a UFO. The program had video and audio tapes of Astronauts in space reporting UFO's, but once they reported it they switched from the open radio frequency where everyone could listen to a secret department of defense encrypted frequency. I was wondering what your thoughts on UFO's where?

Also to go along with Aliens and such I would also like to know your view on Ghost and other such things for both subjects are one's that I have studied and know a bit about and have had personal experiences.

OK, for many years, people reported UFO's over Dartmoor, one evening a friend and I saw said 'UFO' then when it turned off its silent mode we realised it was a military helicopter undergoing trials and is now in active service under the name of Merlin. As it happens, most the UFO's sightings around the UK turn out to be aircraft of military origin (not always RAF mind )

Many if not most UFO's have explanations, that is not to say that it isn't possible, but why would any lifeforms with the level of intelligence to build spacecraft of that calibre want anything to do with our planet.

Look at the way we treat each other and our planet... if a UFO did land, no doubt someone would welcome the visitors with both barrels or a full magazine.

As for Ghosts/Spirits... in my view, undoubtedly, based on person experiences

i complety agree with you Kana Seiko Haruki. if thear is life smaret anof to biled space travling vehickels way woued theay wont to come hear. we treat ouwear planet and the cretears how live on it with us pretey bad not to metion ouwear own kined. if we cant getalong with ouwear own speceys way woued another speceys wont to have aneything to dow with us.
i dow beleve thear is other life. becos if thear is not than we live in a vearey lonley and sad place. and ouwear own planet has way to mouch biodeverstey on it and we are just a tiney speck thear has to be othear tiney specks out thar that has just as moutch life on it.

ghost ya i beleve in theam.

I agree with both Rich and Mouse that intelligent beings that can do space travel will leave our planet alone. But also believe that perhaps they are also waiting for the right time to do anything. Most of our policy deals with shoot first and ask questions later on something we fear. However the communications that you heard from the shuttle Discovery if I recall correctly has been and will stay classified. I know of the mission that you speak of Kenny, for that was one of the tapes my mom brought home one night and trust me when I say you have not seen the whole tape.

As for ghosts, yes I believe in them also.

Most of UFO's are military or something else that can be explained. As for believing they would leave our planet alone I'm not to sure they would. I know that if were to travel to other planet that had life, it would be a stealth mission to see what the life forms where like. They would try and secretly get samples from the planet (planets, animals, life forms, water ect) Then once a more understanding and research was done, contact would be attempted later. So I believe that most of the what could be considered UFO's that cant be explained could possible be such like I mentioned. Much is kept and will be kept classified and the government would tell us otherwise until other life forms visit the White House and are broad casted on tv or life forms are hostile and attack us for our planet.

As for the Ghost topic, I dont want to really talk about my own experiences because its something that I want to forget. I believe but yet understand why they are here and what they want.

I believe that the possibilities of UFO and extraterrestrials are highly likely. We are proof that aliens exist. They may be coming here as part of exploration. They may have found the first sign of life in long time. So its only logical to further the experiments and visits. Also, wrap your head around this: perhaps they are not aliens at all. They might be humans evolved to suit the earth's climate in the future. They have discovered time travel, and came back to our present to see exactly what went wrong. What made them the way they are or when it happened. They would need the occasional sample to pin point the event. Pretty crazy huh!
As far as go ghost, I believe them to be the Force energy left behind after the physical bodies have fail or ceased to remain alive. Those who choose to be seen either remain for guidance or are so Force apted they don't realize they're physical state has changed. Its a little hard to put into words, but thats about the jist of it.

You say \"why would aliens have any interest in our planet?\" but may I remind you that we are a lush fertile resource rich planet that has lots of very interesting places and creatures. I ask you \"Why wouldn't aliens be interested in our planet?\". You are of course asuming that aliens would land and want peace, but it is also just as likely that an advanced alien race would land and want to kill everything and take our resources (See the film Independance Day).

But it is actually more likely that any UFO's that are not of this planets origin (asteroids/comets etc... don't count), then they would likely be unmanned, because unless they are able to travel to different planets much faster than we have been capable of going even in thought experiments (faster than light), then going to a different planetary body or even a different solar system would not be worth going to unless some sort of unmanned spacecraft had scouted it first.

As for ghosts and other spiritual entities, well I think they are doubtful and more halucinations at best. But as for weird energy readins that can sometimes appear, well that would be remenants of that creatures Force Energy.

Ah UFO's... I bumper sticker comes to mind

\"Beam me up Scotty, There's no intelligent life here!\"

Dispite all the proof against such things I do believe that it is plausable, and have been an avid fan of things involving alien abduction.

I also follow the paranormal with a passion.

For the record I have not been abducted but have had a strange sighting of a floating craft, that was silent and shaped somewhat like a gem... sparks or flares fell from it...it hovered over my back yard with a beam of light shining around the bushes. The white glow off this craft lit up the room behind me. My wife was the one to notice it and awoke me. After a few minutes it drifted off and changed direction a couple of times before we lost sight of it through the trees...maybe explainable, but pretty cool just the same.

Now the paranotmal thing...this is really my wifes department, lets just say that she is highly sensitive and has been called a 'telephone'. I've seen too many things first hand through her to dissmiss, some not very nice at all...I can say that there are things that go bump in the night er... in the daytime too...:blink:

Oh I should say that with the paranormal, I do not look upon these happenings as the entities in Ghost busters, they could be energy recordings, that repeat the same event over and over, but I have been involved with something that interacted and responded to input, in an increasing hostile manner I may add! Again these things may prove to have scientific explinations but the phenomena is a fasinating topic to be sure.

I do believe in 'ghosts' and have experiences of them, but I also of the mind that not all experiences (be they mine or other peoples) are actually the 'spirits' of the deceased (in some cases i suspect the spirits of the living, ie vodka, whiskey etc etc etc)

A little while back, there was an excellent documentary on this very subject,

In many old cities in europe there are 'old cities' underneath, ie what are now basement tunnels etc were once the actual building etc themselves and have been built over in recent centuries.

The example used in this film was I believe Edinburgh (or may have been Glasgow) in Scotland, anyway, the location isnt essential to the following.

Now these tunnels had been studied for may years as they were said to be extremely active in paranormal activity. The documentary went a few steps further and got special permission to take sample of the building material (granite). These test showed something very interesting. The granite was easily oscillated but (caused to vibrate) simply through small external sounds, ie people voices or footsteps caused the granite to oscillate, but the response oscillation was at a frequency of particular interest.

This frequency, if played to nearly any mammal, causes the subject to have feelings of fear and anxiety or being watched, and to prove this, the scientists replicated this frequency in sealed rooms in lab conditions and sure enough, the humans felt fear etc.

Also of note, these tunnels were noticeably rat free areas.

The point is that an area said to be 'haunted' actually caused these feelings simply due to the materials used in construction. So how many 'haunted' buildings are made of materials of similar properties?

I believe alot if not most hauntings can be explained with science, at very least human psychology, eg tell someone a house is haunted, 'arrange' something to happen and watch the reaction. Do the same incident to another person without telling the place has spooks and the reaction will be much less.

I am certainly not saying there are no ghosts or what have you, but i do think the numbers are greatly over estimated due to the above reasons.

As to 'UFOs' well, we gotta be pretty ignorant to think we are the only life forms (inhabited planet) in the universe, but are we visited, well, im not sure... maybe it would be nice if we were, maybe these visitors could help us out in some way, I dunno, perpetual energy, cures for sicknesses etc... but knowing humans, our welcome would be from the barrel of a gun.