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Expectation
10 Feb 2010 04:59 #28661
by RyuJin
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Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re:Expectation
attachment is easy to deal with, you just have to understand and accept that nothing lasts forever...everything in existence has a shelf life then must be tossed once expired...expectation is a bit more of a challenge, for me i simply view expectations as intangible...hopes based on dreams...if you know for certain that something is going to happen then it isn't an expectation since it's based on a perception from gathered information....if you \"hope\" for something to happen it becomes an expectation and can thus lead to dissappointment when it doesn't happen....
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There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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10 Feb 2010 05:07 #28662
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There are various versions of past, now, future
One (actually quite good one) is in the 2nd Terminator movie - along the lines of 'the future is not set, the future is what we make it'
The best trio one is (campbell I think) the past is behind us - the future is unknown and perhaps meant to be that way and the present is just that - a present (as in gift) but as each moment passes, the last one becomes the past and next is a new gift, so treat it that way - no point in looking too far ahead as our current present may be our last.
The problem with 'expectations' is often, humans expect too much, either of themselves or of others (or outside forces/events) - there comes even bigger problems when expectations are the result of intricate plans - and we all know what they say about the best laid plans ...
There is nothing wrong with dreams and hopes or even setting goals - as long as they are realist and achievable - better to set the bar low and clear it with ease than to set it too high and fail every time.
MTFBWY - A
One (actually quite good one) is in the 2nd Terminator movie - along the lines of 'the future is not set, the future is what we make it'
The best trio one is (campbell I think) the past is behind us - the future is unknown and perhaps meant to be that way and the present is just that - a present (as in gift) but as each moment passes, the last one becomes the past and next is a new gift, so treat it that way - no point in looking too far ahead as our current present may be our last.
The problem with 'expectations' is often, humans expect too much, either of themselves or of others (or outside forces/events) - there comes even bigger problems when expectations are the result of intricate plans - and we all know what they say about the best laid plans ...
There is nothing wrong with dreams and hopes or even setting goals - as long as they are realist and achievable - better to set the bar low and clear it with ease than to set it too high and fail every time.
MTFBWY - A
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10 Feb 2010 06:33 #28665
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hmmm..deifinitely some food for thought.it seems to me then the goal in this case would be to have goals and objectives to work toward but to have no attachments to the end result thus eliminating any expectations of how it would work out.
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10 Feb 2010 10:10 #28670
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
Replied by RyuJin on topic Re:Expectation
so true about the best laid plans...that's why i rarely ever plan things out...unpredictable spontaniety is a good thing...sometimes...other times its good to have a basic plan with plenty of flexability..
Warning: Spoiler!
There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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10 Feb 2010 17:39 #28692
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jarin wrote:
This doesnt necessarily mean that failures have to be accepted as 'fate' or whatever - its good to be dissapointed about a failed task etc but like with many things - a reasonable balance is the key
Obsession over something is UNHEALTHY - a fine line thats hard to explain but we all know when we come across it - its personal to each of us
MTFBWY - A
hmmm..deifinitely some food for thought.it seems to me then the goal in this case would be to have goals and objectives to work toward but to have no attachments to the end result thus eliminating any expectations of how it would work out.
This doesnt necessarily mean that failures have to be accepted as 'fate' or whatever - its good to be dissapointed about a failed task etc but like with many things - a reasonable balance is the key
Obsession over something is UNHEALTHY - a fine line thats hard to explain but we all know when we come across it - its personal to each of us
MTFBWY - A
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