Thoughts on smoking/vaping ?

Well I recently graduated high school , but when I was in the school I played rugby , and baseball . I do lift weights and go on jogs , also nature walks in the woods and creeks . I do a little martial arts but nothing big mostly training with a old man who is a forth degree black belt . I don't do it for ranks or anything officially , I do it just for self defense .

You have a good foundation of fitness, thats cool. I started Brazilian Jiujitsu a couple of years ago, its great for self defense (especially if you already know the basics of punching and defending punches) and the cardio is intense! Id highly recommend it.

Actually that's one of the foundations of what my master (martail arts ) is teaching me . It is pretty intense , but I mostly am just reading through PDFs about the forms and other styles because he is kinda busy and we live kinda far away so we don't get to meet up alot .

Ah, ok. If you have a job it would be worth it to find a gym and train with other people. Grappling especially is something where you absolutely have to have training partners. Really you need sparring partners for everything but you can learn to do the footwork and the motions of striking attack and defense through shadowboxing and bag work (it wont be nearly as good as proper sparring but it may be enough to give you a chance), not so with grappling; the techniques require the weight and momentum of the other person. You really have to experience it to understand it.
BJJ is pretty awesome man. The first couple months can be hard because its humbling. You spar right off the bat and when you roll with people who have been doing it for a while, it shows you how un-ready you really are for a fight. If you can be persistent though it becomes a real power in your life. Not only can you fight but you know how to persist under real stress. Plus it keeps you in good shape and gives you a reason not to smoke; so you dont get tapped!

This topic fell a little to the side lines so I'm bumping it , so what are your thoughts on smoking tabacco , cannabis , and vaping ?
Also thank you everyone so far for commenting and to who will comment as well !

My thoughts, like most things, learn what it is, how it works, what it does, how to do it, and then stop if it's unhealthy, harmful to others, or too expensive. Dunno if that can be mangled into the 5 Knight Trials of fiction, but perhaps :silly:

So no, I don't, but have. Haven't in decades.

Adder wrote: My thoughts, like most things, learn what it is, how it works, what it does, how to do it, and then stop if it's unhealthy, harmful to others, or too expensive. Dunno if that can be mangled into the 5 Knight Trials of fiction, but perhaps :silly:

So no, I don't, but have. Haven't in decades.

What is this 5 knight trials of fiction you speak of ? Would you care to elaborate on this to satisfy my curiosity please ?

Inhaling anything other than the 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide mixture that we call "air" is bad for you.
Duh.

There was already mentioned that smoking is really unhealthy, and I am agree with this point. But if I had an option to vote for legalization of cannabis or against it, I would vote for - some chemical substances that can be found in cannabis are capable to cure cancer, as a medicine that stabilizes the organism after chemotherapy and makes this procedure less harmful and more effective.

CaesarEJW wrote: Inhaling anything other than the 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide mixture that we call "air" is bad for you.
Duh.

I don't think you are right in this opinion. Not just anything except of pure "air" is harmful. "Natural" air, for example in the forest or nearby the ocean, also includes hundreds of other compounds that can be helpful for a human. For example, pine forests produce lots of phytoncides, that can cure infections just by inhaling them, even tuberculosis!

I vape like a bastard... but then I smoked like a bastard for 20-some years. Having tried various techniques to get off the fags, nothing seemed to work. It would take between two months or two days for me to fall off the wagon.

Took up vaping on the 8th of March, 2014 and haven't lit a ciggie since. Some here remember me smoking ...

As for cannabis, there are some quite good things in it, the cannabidiols (CBA, CBB, CBD &c.) which are very healthy for us. When one considers that the THC which makes one "high" really doesn't last that long and leaves the cannabidiols in us going for hours, I'm pretty sure that I'd vote to legalise it too. But I'm not in the Senate anymore...

Alexandre Orion wrote: I vape like a bastard... but then I smoked like a bastard for 20-some years. Having tried various techniques to get off the fags, nothing seemed to work. It would take between two months or two days for me to fall off the wagon.

Took up vaping on the 8th of March, 2014 and haven't lit a ciggie since. Some here remember me smoking ...

As for cannabis, there are some quite good things in it, the cannabidiols (CBA, CBB, CBD &c.) which are very healthy for us. When one considers that the THC which makes one "high" really doesn't last that long and leaves the cannabidiols in us going for hours, I'm pretty sure that I'd vote to legalise it too. But I'm not in the Senate anymore...

Thank you for saying exactly what I would say but better. Good to see you around friend.

Vices are personal, so long as they aren't hurting others, but I caution moderation--when a substance controls you, you lose a bit of self-determination.

Rainbow Firefly wrote:

CaesarEJW wrote: Inhaling anything other than the 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide mixture that we call "air" is bad for you.
Duh.

I don't think you are right in this opinion. Not just anything except of pure "air" is harmful. "Natural" air, for example in the forest or nearby the ocean, also includes hundreds of other compounds that can be helpful for a human. For example, pine forests produce lots of phytoncides, that can cure infections just by inhaling them, even tuberculosis!

Oh, eat me.
I'm not wrong, am I?
That is the correct chemical composition of air (give or take a bit of argon and whatnot).
"Natural" air? As opposed to "unnatural" air? You do realize that everything is technically natural, even man-made things. We occur in nature, our creations occur in nature, therefore it is all "natural" (a city is akin to a beehive, just much more complex).
And as for the rest of your response, a resounding DUH (ALTHOUGH that bit about the phytoncides is fascinating, thank you for sharing).
Not to mention I was being humorous.

By "natural air" I mean "not polluted air", air that can be found in wild nature.

And you're wrong because it's impossible for air to be a mixture of ONLY nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide and argon, it also includes other compounds, but not all of them are bad for a human.

Just re-read your opinion carefully. You say that everything other than a proper mixture of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide and argon is bad for human health.
But:
1) This mixture just don't exist in "pure" version, there are always hundreds of other compounds.
2) Not only this four components of air are the components of "healthy" air.
3) A "pure" mixture of this four gases can be worse for our health than air with extra compounds such as phytoncides and sea salt.

Conclusion: you're wrong in this opinion and most likely not a medic/chemist/biologist by education.

I had a mother-in-law who died from lung cancer because she was a smoker. When I met her she was probably already stage 4. Watching her die slowly and the effect it had on her family wasn't easy.

Part of me wants to give the whole black lung speech and fry an egg in a pan, but I'd rather say...

You should think of your body as more than just the outside surface that you see in the mirror. Inside you there is a whole entire micro universe. If you could visualize a small piece of it... all those living cells working, growing, functioning together with the Force flowing through them, giving them life and energy. Imagine a lush tropical environment fueled by your positive health choices... consuming fruits and vegetables.

Now imagine Mustafar with Darth Vader's castle. (The story of Mustafar, told in Vader Immortal, is interesting because it wasn't always like that) Imagine turning your own body into a wasteland, a little bit each time you pump pollutants into your internal atmosphere. You're slowly killing yourself but counting on your cells to compensate and grow back. But can your body keep up with the work you're forcing upon it to make up for your unhealthy lifestyle choices? Can the Amazon rain forest last forever with all the fires and deforestation?

I'm not telling anyone don't smoke. What I'm saying is that its not something you want to do every day. It shouldn't be habit or routine. It shouldn't be something you feel the need to do. I won't smoke cigarettes or anything with bad chemical ingredients. I can count how many cigars I've smoked on one hand. It's not zero but it's not even 5. These things have cancer-causing chemicals. They might be legal, but they're not safe and the companies that make them don't care what happens to you as a result of using their products. And the results wont come today or tomorrow. But they'll come. And you have to think about what kind of quality of life you want to have when you're 50,60,70+ Do you want to be on oxygen and coughing all the time? Do you want to have some kind of Darth Vader mask that helps you breathe?

If you're going to smoke anything, smoke weed. Get it in a bag. Roll it yourself. Make sure you have a reliable source who's not going to try and lace it with something else. I used to get it for myself every now and then and smoke socially just when someone's passing it around. But these days I'm only ever going to buy it for myself when I'm in Jamaica which is not often. So for me its more of a vacation thing and I know Rastafarians who have either cut back a lot or stopped smoking weed altogether.

Take care of your body, not just the outside. Take care of the inside too. Drink lots of water and make sure you're getting enough vitamins and minerals in your diet or take supplements if you have to. Remember that you are a vessel and a conduit for the Force.

CaesarEJW wrote:

Rainbow Firefly wrote:

CaesarEJW wrote: Inhaling anything other than the 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide mixture that we call "air" is bad for you.
Duh.

I don't think you are right in this opinion. Not just anything except of pure "air" is harmful. "Natural" air, for example in the forest or nearby the ocean, also includes hundreds of other compounds that can be helpful for a human. For example, pine forests produce lots of phytoncides, that can cure infections just by inhaling them, even tuberculosis!

Oh, eat me.
I'm not wrong, am I?
That is the correct chemical composition of air (give or take a bit of argon and whatnot).
"Natural" air? As opposed to "unnatural" air? You do realize that everything is technically natural, even man-made things. We occur in nature, our creations occur in nature, therefore it is all "natural" (a city is akin to a beehive, just much more complex).
And as for the rest of your response, a resounding DUH (ALTHOUGH that bit about the phytoncides is fascinating, thank you for sharing).
Not to mention I was being humorous.

when the planet "smokes" in the form of volcanoes, that's also "natural", but it will definitely kill you and any other animal that gets too close.

...and no, man made things aren't natural. That's why we make them.

I am an off and on smoking, though it isn't a huge deal for me, I am one of those who started in my twenties, so it doesn't have such a firm grip on me.

Nowadays I mostly smoke when I drink, and I don't drink very often either, so.

I would definitely prefer to stay away from cigarettes, and would advise anyone to do the same.

I do enjoy weed, though probably once every other year, so I assume the dosage is low enough to be irrelevant. I don't smoke it. I prefer it in brownies.

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