Arrogance and Attitudes

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09 Mar 2018 07:23 #318222 by
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We are all human, we all have faults. He who is without fault may cast the first stone. Judge not, lest you be judged. You are entitled to your own opinion. Do unto others as you would have done to you. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.

Has anyone not heard these statements? I wonder why these are so easy to use and so easy to disregard? I'm looking at the Clone Wars in a completely spiritual point of view, a view I can relate to as I have been in combat, even war.

The thing I have started to notice is how arrogant many of the Jedi characters are. They all seem to have some disdain towards each other as to suggest that they are better than the other they are dealing with. This is really interesting to me because I'm accustomed to running into elitists or fanatics. When considering the value of another, we could actually qualify what we count in that value.

Attractiveness is the most valuable part of a person's value when it comes to others. Have you ever noticed how much more you wanted to hear an attractive person speak their mind, moreso than an unattractive person? We want to associate with attractive people.

Ineffective communication is often the least valuable part of a person's worth to others. Someone who has a hard time speaking, or cannot relate to others through communication will be the must shunned away people we could ever meet.

Of course there are tons of attributes in-between these two extremes, and you could place value on every last part. Ultimately, you have to actually ask yourself, what is MY value of others? You see, in penny and dime-ing any part of a person's person, we are completely disregarding the for mentioned statements. We are not being accepting, only tolerant of others.

We are geared to think about ourselves first, working with others is only important if we get gains from them. We use others for our gain, and when they are not useful we ignore them, or deal with their presence in either a positive or negative way. When we need them again, we reassert ourselves as a friend to get what we need and then we move on again.

We impress upon those who would be judges of us that we are in fact better than the rest even if we hurt another to do so. We crave being judged and looked upon with reverence or awe. We select titles to separate us from others that suggest we are better at least in that way.

Yet watch a pair of toddler siblings work together. The cooperate without self interests and only want to make each other happy. Introduce this couple to other young toddlers and you'll see there is no hate, no biases, concerns. They don't think on the difference of skin color, religious or ethnic background. They are willing to share what they have, even sacrifice to make another happy. There is no relative attractiveness they assert on one another, no sexual biases either.

Yoda makes references to the wonderous workings of the younglings. Jesus said be like the children. Yet we still focus our attention to our self. Multiple IP teachings show us that all the universe, and all the things within, are God. That when we look at a tree, we should do so with the respect we would show our own Creator. I use Creator out of respect to each other's interpretation as to who, or what that is. Regardless you have been created so whatever you perceive to have caused this, your Creator.

Moreso, look past the exterior shell that we create and view only the lowly building blocks that are there. Blind yourself so that you can see more clearly. Are you seeing the world as a small child would, or are you tempered by the limited illusion that is this life?

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09 Mar 2018 15:05 #318233 by
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ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote: Yet watch a pair of toddler siblings work together. The cooperate without self interests and only want to make each other happy. Introduce this couple to other young toddlers and you'll see there is no hate, no biases, concerns. They don't think on the difference of skin color, religious or ethnic background. They are willing to share what they have, even sacrifice to make another happy. There is no relative attractiveness they assert on one another, no sexual biases either.


Obviously you have no children :cheer: If you have ever seen one child take a toy from another child you would know how brutal the retaliation can be and the combat that ensues. There is no benevolence in their assault. We are a social species but we are also a pack species and we are in constant completion with our environment and each other. We band together in these packs to make us more effective our environments and to become stronger in competition against other packs for resources. We are attracted to others that are "pretty" because we perceive those as best suited to carry the species into the next generation.

ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote: I use Creator out of respect to each other's interpretation as to who, or what that is. Regardless you have been created so whatever you perceive to have caused this, your Creator.


You may still assume to much here. I was "created" by my parents. Nothing more.

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09 Mar 2018 15:46 #318238 by
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote: Yet watch a pair of toddler siblings work together. The cooperate without self interests and only want to make each other happy. Introduce this couple to other young toddlers and you'll see there is no hate, no biases, concerns. They don't think on the difference of skin color, religious or ethnic background. They are willing to share what they have, even sacrifice to make another happy. There is no relative attractiveness they assert on one another, no sexual biases either.


Obviously you have no children :cheer: If you have ever seen one child take a toy from another child you would know how brutal the retaliation can be and the combat that ensues. There is no benevolence in their assault. We are a social species but we are also a pack species and we are in constant completion with our environment and each other. We band together in these packs to make us more effective our environments and to become stronger in competition against other packs for resources. We are attracted to others that are "pretty" because we perceive those as best suited to carry the species into the next generation.

ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote: I use Creator out of respect to each other's interpretation as to who, or what that is. Regardless you have been created so whatever you perceive to have caused this, your Creator.


You may still assume to much here. I was "created" by my parents. Nothing more.


Actually I have 7 kids thanks for noticing. Kids have a unique way of interacting with other kids that is as I have described above. They can make friends without holding anything back, it's beautiful.

And obviously your Creator is your parents, not sure how that is assuming too much.

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ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote:
Actually I have 7 kids thanks for noticing. Kids have a unique way of interacting with other kids that is as I have described above. They can make friends without holding anything back, it's beautiful.

And obviously your Creator is your parents, not sure how that is assuming too much.



My only point was just as much as they cooperate they also fight like cats and dogs.

As for the second point, its the term "creator" itself. Are you implying something was done with intent or will?

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09 Mar 2018 15:58 #318241 by Carlos.Martinez3

ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote:

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote: Yet watch a pair of toddler siblings work together. The cooperate without self interests and only want to make each other happy. Introduce this couple to other young toddlers and you'll see there is no hate, no biases, concerns. They don't think on the difference of skin color, religious or ethnic background. They are willing to share what they have, even sacrifice to make another happy. There is no relative attractiveness they assert on one another, no sexual biases either.


Obviously you have no children :cheer: If you have ever seen one child take a toy from another child you would know how brutal the retaliation can be and the combat that ensues. There is no benevolence in their assault. We are a social species but we are also a pack species and we are in constant completion with our environment and each other. We band together in these packs to make us more effective our environments and to become stronger in competition against other packs for resources. We are attracted to others that are "pretty" because we perceive those as best suited to carry the species into the next generation.

ནའдհдཀ༑ནკ wrote: I use Creator out of respect to each other's interpretation as to who, or what that is. Regardless you have been created so whatever you perceive to have caused this, your Creator.


You may still assume to much here. I was "created" by my parents. Nothing more.


Actually I have 7 kids thanks for noticing. Kids have a unique way of interacting with other kids that is as I have described above. They can make friends without holding anything back, it's beautiful.

And obviously your Creator is your parents, not sure how that is assuming too much.



I have a few of my own - the boy - gladly- has verry little attachment to posessions. Sharing isn't even a word we use because of the way that boy invited others to engage. Sounds like our kids can be the break in the chain of things implanted in us hu?
To be able to witness ways others as such would be a wonder yo behind hu - then we could walk this earth like brother and sister and it not just be ... a dream. I've been reading - Ripples of peace, 111 ways to help create peace in the world by Rae Thompson
A good read and a very present person who believes in action of the now type of mentality. There will be jerks and gems - aggression tension and ascension.. what our focus is - well that's to us ... right ?
Ps I love the tree and the goat! Great avatar! Good stuff and way to make it you!
Ive been trying to find a tree with water running out - but cool lol be well! Force be with us as we seek n serve it !

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09 Mar 2018 16:05 #318243 by Brick
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I think kids can be just as arrogant as us adults. And as Kyrin said, they are just as prone to squabbling.

However, I think kids are far less devious, and far less likely to hold a grudge, which helps them to move past things and get back to working together as friends much more successfully than us adults

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I find kids to be less hateful for things that can't be changed. Those are, sadly, often learned later in life. They don't judge by skin colour, race, ethnicity, creed, faith, ect. But they will scream and punch if you try to take their firetruck, because that's something that can be changed, and they don't like the fact you're taking their things.

They're not hateful, they're just outraged over the adorable things.

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09 Mar 2018 16:16 #318248 by Carlos.Martinez3

Brick wrote: I think kids can be just as arrogant as us adults. And as Kyrin said, they are just as prone to squabbling.

However, I think kids are far less devious, and far less likely to hold a grudge, which helps them to move past things and get back to working together as friends much more successfully than us adults



If they are taught that way! Smiley face right ?

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09 Mar 2018 16:41 #318256 by ren
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I've never seen my kids fight, and they are usually quite apt at sharing. Hurts last less than 10 seconds and new friendships are forged in even less time than that. Kids exchange names and instantly become best buds?!

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09 Mar 2018 16:49 #318259 by Kit
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Selfishness is a survival tactic. But we're also pack animals. Arrogance and attitude is also a survival thing. The "alphas" of the human pack gets the best cuts of meat, the best mates, and that sort of thing. But there are other very valid survival tactics within a group.

I think kids are inherently selfish. There's studies now that say that colic (baby crying for no aparent reason) is a survival trait. The crying baby gets the most attention. But later in life, there's a shift to the community. I don't know if that's ingrained or learned. With the two kids I raised from baby on up, I feel that that community drive gets in pretty early. One kid I raised when I was 12 with no goals other than to keep him entertained enough to leave me alone, and make sure he didn't get himself hurt (he's my brother) There were some things he was selfish with but others he was absoulutly a sweet heart in sharing and attention. My daughter, who I'm mindfully raising, if I've let her decide something SHOULD be, it's a little hard for her to shift to sharing. She'll throw a fit once or twice, but otherwise she's up for sharing. The examples I have are the TV (watching her shows vs something I wanted to watch) or the music in the car (I'm so tired of Lion Guard!)

In the eyes of a child, everything is new and wonderful. And everything's a play thing lol. I've gotta admit, having Kitten around now makes life so much more fun. I got to learn to play again :D
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