Are the Millennials revolting ?

Well, are they ?

I found this interesting ... Hopefully you will too.

I always find these kind of questions about Millennials intriguing, so thank you for the video

What is most interesting to me is how broad the term "Millennial" has become. Most people have a vision of a young person wearing headphones and posting memes to their Facebook using an iPhone. Or maybe an unemployed college graduate complaining about everything and constantly promoting "socialism". Or maybe it is the Social Justice Warrior out there protesting with signs in support of every new cause. The reality is the "Millennial" designation also includes 37 year old suit and tie business professionals who own their own homes and vote conservative.

The term has become too broad to answer questions like the one in the thread title here. Yes, Millennials are revolting, but against a hundred different things that also contradict each other and often have cross purposes.

It indeed is a broad term, Steve ... and that is why I found this interesting enough to listen to the whole intervention and the Q & A.

When you get an opportunity to check it out, you'll see why it is a captivating event. Not what one would anticipate from the title.

Im only a few minutes into the talk so my reply is more about general perception...

Its just very strange to me, the way that the millennial cohort seems to be handling issues. From my ealry childhood into young adulthood, males WANTED to be tough and strong. It was seen as a good thing (by both genders) for boys and men to be masculine. And i still believe that it IS a good thing. The issue of gay rights particularly forced us to recognize that masculinity might be expressed in a wider variety of ways than was generally acknowledged, but it was still understood that masculinity is GOOD, in its own right, and thats not something i have any doubts about. But this generation seems to have embraced the idea that masculinity itself is some kind of crime against humanity, which is in my view not only wrong, but outright pathological.

And then from that premise to have gone to the extreme of actually celebrating fragility, with "safe spaces" and censure of speech. If what you say could possibly hurt the feelings of the most paranoid and unnecessarily sensitive person that might ever encounter your words, you shouldt be allowed to say it. Punished for saying it, even. The idea that manners and good taste should be enforced by the rule of law. As well as the increasing proclivity to taking offense and believing oneself to be injured and victimized. Violence and rape have transformed from objective physical acts to subjective, personal interpretations. Interpretations made by someone who has already been conditioned to see themselves as a victim. The very idea of victimization has changed: no longer is it a deliberate act of exploitation, now it seems one may claim victim status simply because they felt uncomfortable, unliked, or (god forbid) disrespected, regardless of the actual intent of the "perpetrator."

My cohort was also taught that people should not be judged by their racial group (or any other of their group identities) but now the message seems to be "you ARE your group" and I find that incredibly offensive and frightening. That sort of thinking is one facet of whats come to be known as the "Social Justice Warrior movement" or "SJWism" and its the same sort of thinking that produces KKK and other hateful ideologies and coalitions. The idea that individuals can be judged and should be treated differently based on their racial group, or their gender, or any criteria other than their actual personal behavior and beliefs.

I see millennials as being the least oppressed generation in the history of the world, while also being one of most obnoxious and accusatory. I see them as having embraced a view of society that completely disavows the roles of merit and long term effort, and places all achievements as a consequence of affiliation with race or gender alliances; as if all men were conspiring to oppress all women, and all whites are mutually responsible for all oppression of all other races. And the primary reason for any particular individuals success or lack of it is that they were upheld or downtrodden as a consequence of their group demographic.

Is all of this just my own personal mis-perception? Well it may be a mis-perception, (I hope that is is!) but based on the innumerable backlashes to the SJW movement, im definitely not the only one who is experiencing it.

First, I feel there is a Hagar joke in here somewhere about the peasants being revolting

The reality is the "Millennial" designation also includes 37 year old suit and tie business professionals who own their own homes and vote conservative.

For that matter my fine friend, it includes 30something socialists that own their own home and vote Sex Party, or 30somethings that own their own business and forget to vote at all, or 30somethings that wear a suit and tie and posts memes to their facebook, it includes half the people that read you the news on the telly, the people who drive you around in taxis, the people who come put out fires, or look after you in hospital.

We millennials are walking around with skin cancer and crows feet. Believe it or not, we've been here a while, and we've been making key decisions in your government and businesses for the last decade or so. If the 30-somethings snuck up on you, you really have not been paying attention.



(I have not watched the video just yet, all in good time, and I've never been shy of making an ass of myself before getting the full story )

I dunno, they're gross, but not that gross.

Gen-X was about 1960-1980
you can always give or take a couple years but thats the most common estimation that ive seen.

Pew Research has it at 1965-1980
http://www.people-press.org/2015/09/03/the-whys-and-hows-of-generations-research/

James said "We millennials are walking around with skin cancer and crows feet. Believe it or not, we've been here a while, and we've been making key decisions in your government and businesses for the last decade or so. If the 30-somethings snuck up on you, you really have not been paying attention."

In fairness, I'm a 38 year old (technically GenX, but the leading edge of Millennial) suit and tie wearing middle management condo owning liberal with colon cancer and student loan debt who posts memes to Facebook and listens to heavy metal.

I've been saying for a few years now that these Millennials are the ones doing the hiring and the majority of the grunt work in business right now. We're the gears turning the machine. To dismiss us as whiney entitled brats is generalising way too much.

Unless you listen to Taylor Swift. Then you are definitely the problem

JamesSand wrote: ....it includes half the people that read you the news on the telly, the people who drive you around in taxis, the people who come put out fires, or look after you in hospital.

...the people who guard me while i sleep?

Lol if you hadnt mentioned "the people that read you the news on the telly" you would have won me over. Unfortunately, while media is supposed to be our first safeguard against the more nefarious shifts in culture, instead it has become their vanguard.

Since I suppose I'm a millennial........I'll put it this way (before I watch the video than see if it makes sense after) We were convinced since childhood we could be what we wanted to be by an education system (in the US) that severely lacks the actual accountability to really demonstrate that being what you want normally means suffering a ton before you get it. I have been lucky yes lucky enough to have to pull myself out of poverty once or twice of my own doing to see that sometime things are scary and well if you want shit to be a way you want it to you make it that way. If not as I say in my classroom once in a bit take your ball and go home. Just sayin..........oh and the education system is worse now than it was then so we will see where this goes......