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02 Nov 2016 15:11 #263455 by
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Senan wrote: Maybe someday we will discover a way to upload the brain's memories to a drive or server that everyone else can access, but I would have to ask why we would want that? Most of the fun in life comes from discovering something new and experiencing it for yourself. I go to a Metallica concert for the unique opportunity to experience their music live, in that venue, in that moment, with those people. That's not the same as watching a video of it on YouTube. I'll stick with making my own memories and cherishing them as mine alone.


What if someday you could go into a store, like a record store today, but instead of buying a record the clerk could access previously uploaded brain memories and experiences from whatever and download them back into your brain in such a way that you could not tell an actual memory you had experienced from the one just down loaded. In effect you could have the actual experience of going to a Metallica concert without ever having gone to a concert!

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02 Nov 2016 15:17 #263457 by Jason Peel
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Sounds like a templar to me, must be after those pieces of Eden!

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02 Nov 2016 15:23 #263460 by
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I think this is probably along the same lines:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/baby-mice-can-inherit-fear-of-certain-smells-from-their-parents-180948096/?no-ist

I've had a theory, which is by no means scientific, that perhaps some memories get imprinted into our DNA and passed down. I've made no secret of the fact that I never knew my paternal lineage. However, when I found them I found characteristics that I had in common with them, things such as liking spicy food, certain authors, things that aren't physical and aren't passed along through genetics. Now it could all be a coincidence, but some things I know I didn't get from my parents (those who raised me) such as my love for reading, as none of them ever read. My mom didn't read at all, and my dad hated any kind of fiction, and I didn't in 30+ years see him crack a book, but I constantly read, and was told that my bio-grandmother was never without a book. So I don't know. Just one possibility. I also think that could explain things like Deja Vu, Past Life's etc.

But then it also makes me wonder. If this were true, can you end up becoming a literal different person. For example, if you have a bone marrow transplant, from what I've read, your DNA is changed to that of the donor. You would literally become them, and if your DNA is altered, and memories are passed down through DNA would you then acquire the other person's ancestral memories.

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02 Nov 2016 15:23 #263461 by
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: What if someday you could go into a store, like a record store today, but instead of buying a record the clerk could access previously uploaded brain memories and experiences from whatever and download them back into your brain in such a way that you could not tell an actual memory you had experienced from the one just down loaded. In effect you could have the actual experience of going to a Metallica concert without ever having gone to a concert!


That's where it gets both fascinating and scary at the same time. The benefits of this could be amazing. We could each have every awesome experience we ever wanted to have, but what we learn from the cautionary tales of The Matrix, Total Recall, and many others is that it can quickly turn into a way to deceive and enslave people without them even being aware. Or people could become addicted to the downloaded reality of others and never experience life for themselves. I, for one, don't trust humanity to ever use this kind of ability responsibly.

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02 Nov 2016 15:53 #263469 by Kobos
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Just a Quick note on this because a struck a thought to me.

Energy and Matter cannot created nor destroyed only change form. The theory of quantum computation(from my understanding very limited) is based on the storage of information in the form of organized energy in molecular form (possibly more precise and micro scaled). Based on this it's my guess that yes experience and memory based upon chemical reactions with in a physical form never actually go away they simply change forms like all other energy. Scientifically it's being recycled back into the nature of all things and the systems (eco systems model ect.) that guide the progress of matter and energy. I'm not even going to try and speculate on the possibility of metaphysical transfer of this type of energy change because I don't know, and to be dead honest I am not sure it is my point to nor would I want to truly know.
Please accept this as a humble opinion and speculation.
Much Obliged for a great topic of thought in a different perspective.

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02 Nov 2016 16:12 - 02 Nov 2016 16:55 #263475 by
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Jason Peel wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1209795/Reincarnated-Our-son-World-War-II-pilot-come-life.html


The problem with stories like this are that they are full of wishful thinking and can be popped full of holes, leaving one to come to the conclusion that they are mostly coercion through false memory implantation. For example the Carrier mentioned in the article, the USS Natoma Bay, was a small escort carrier and never had Corsairs as part of its compliment. It only flew Avenger and Hellcat torpedo bombers. It was not big enough for Corsairs. So how does the kid remember getting killed in a Corsair that launched from this ship when the ship never had that kind of plane? Conveniently they leave that tidbit out.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/03/0306205.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_implantation

rrhodes67 wrote: I've had a theory, which is by no means scientific, that perhaps some memories get imprinted into our DNA and passed down..


Genetic memory is a studied phenomena, however Genetic experiences passed down is pretty much considered pseudo-science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_memory_%28psychology%29
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02 Nov 2016 17:08 #263500 by
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I did say it was not scientific. If nothing else, it might make an interesting sci-fi story. :-)

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02 Nov 2016 18:36 #263526 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Jason Peel wrote: What if man is like a recording device? The human brain is sometimes referred to as a quantum computer. I won't pretend to know anything about quantum theory, but if the brain is essentially a tool meant for recording experiences, it brings me to wonder if these experiences expire with the body, or if they are accumulated into a "cloud drive." Consider that perhaps when people experience visions of a "past life," that the individual is somehow accessing data that under normal circumstances would be inaccessible. Perhaps that could also explain certain mental illnesses. Multiple personalities could be looked at as two conflicting sets of data sharing space on a drive specifically designed for only one. Consider that the individual consciousness is the living will of the Force set out in mortal form to gather knowledge in the material world. With proper study, perhaps we could access this data for further analysis. The people accessing this data by accident could be coming under harm because they aren't fully aware of what they are tapping into. Perhaps with proper study and through understanding we could gain greater control over this potentially limitless source of knowledge.

~nothing here is meant to be offensive, if I have offended you I apologize. I only aim to gain outside perspective on these questions that have held a space in my mind.




Great train of thought
I'm currently reading a book on water by Masaru Emoto, great stuff. (I recommend)
Un fortunately we DONT have devices to prove alot. The evidence is often what we pen. Journals are very nice in this light in that we can review our own ideas but what I read is much broader here. To the human ,we have no idea the potential that is avalible. I know of a man who controls with meditation his body heat and... Climbed everest in boxers as proof. Nuts ,yup but possible. So, yes any things opossible.
During my meditations I'm often taken to difrent places, memories or day dreams? Who knows but they help me and I don't deny their results in my life. Balance is needed in everything we do, in my own path I've taken time aside for this very idea friend. The benefits, I still reap! Keep on seeking you WILL find.

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