Veterans need jobs....schools need security

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27 Jun 2016 16:39 #246682 by rugadd
What do people think about employing out of work veterans as security guards at schools?

Pros? Cons?

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27 Jun 2016 18:46 #246708 by MadHatter
I think that it might be a good idea. However one would have to be clear in the duties of those employed and what they are able to do. I know personally after I left the military I was very by the book and without much leniency that period of adjustment might not be so welcome by the students. However one huge benefit that I have seen is veterans have greater then average situational awareness as general rule so they would be more likely to spot something wrong and less likely become lax in keeping their head on a swivel.

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27 Jun 2016 19:13 #246711 by
The idea has merit, but there are two issues that immediately come to mind.

1. Who pays them? Right now schools are already strapped for money and teachers are already underpaid. Public schools rely on local police because the cops are paid by the city or county, not the school district. Maybe it would work for private schools immediately though?

2. They would need to pass the same background checks and have the same training in dealing with children that teachers do. I'm not sure about the rest of the United States or elsewhere in the world, but California is pretty strict about who they will issue a teaching credential to. I'm sure many veterans would pass it, but PTSD or other issues could remove some vets from consideration.

If we are responsible about addressing these and other issues that are sure to come up, I think it would be a great way to work on two different problems simultaneously.

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27 Jun 2016 21:52 #246725 by Leah Starspectre
I believe that before we start thinking about employing vets, we need to ensure their medical treatment (if they returned with physical or mental illness) and their overall transitional care.
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28 Jun 2016 01:19 #246730 by
I know there are a number of career fields in every branch that rarely touch a rifle, and even less that touch a pistol. I don't think you'll find a single 11b or MP that would want to stack up with a personnelist anywhere on the entry team. Joining the military in any branch doesn't magically make the person a Steven Segal, Chuck Norris, or John Cena. I personally know some Marines and Army personnel that qualify once every other year because they are desk jockies and wrench monkeys. I have deployed and served with Army, Airforce and Marine SF/MP's that have to qualify once a year on a series of weapons, as well as quarterly training on active shooter, room clearing, or other similar training that requires them to use critical thinking skills and use of force.

TL;DR: All veterans took the same oath, but not all veterans took to same training. Let the gun slingers sling guns, pencil pushers push pencils and wrench monkeys can wrench things.

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