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15 Jul 2015 12:00 #197931
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When i was young boy, my grandfather told me about his brother. He told me his brother was a member in some Closed society and he was receiving wage for that every month. He told me his wage was about approx. 10 times higher than any ordinary hard working man in that time. He told me that his brother was receiving this wage for being a member and basically he was not doing anything. Only once in his life they (The Secret society) sent him to France for a mission. All he had to do was to push some (probably specific ) police man (eventually in specific time) to the river.
My grandfather lived 1925-2005 . Not sure about his brother as i never seen him personally , but must lived in approx the same years in Czech Republic.
Does any1 know or just have an idea what Closed society or sect was he talking about?
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When i was young boy, my grandfather told me about his brother. He told me his brother was a member in some Closed society and he was receiving wage for that every month. He told me his wage was about approx. 10 times higher than any ordinary hard working man in that time. He told me that his brother was receiving this wage for being a member and basically he was not doing anything. Only once in his life they (The Secret society) sent him to France for a mission. All he had to do was to push some (probably specific ) police man (eventually in specific time) to the river.
My grandfather lived 1925-2005 . Not sure about his brother as i never seen him personally , but must lived in approx the same years in Czech Republic.
Does any1 know or just have an idea what Closed society or sect was he talking about?

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15 Jul 2015 12:08 - 15 Jul 2015 12:12 #197932
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Isn't the assumed definition of a closed (and presumably 'secret') society one you don't know anything about?
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15 Jul 2015 12:34 #197934
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Yes Edan. I do not know.
I only know what he said and that is what i wrote. I wrote is the same way i remember i heard it.
(only difference is 10 times more money - he actually said around 10 000 czech crowns , which could be like 10 times more equivalent in that time. I didnt write 10000 because i am not expecting anybody to check the currency rate and wages minimum in that time in Czech)
I only know what he said and that is what i wrote. I wrote is the same way i remember i heard it.
(only difference is 10 times more money - he actually said around 10 000 czech crowns , which could be like 10 times more equivalent in that time. I didnt write 10000 because i am not expecting anybody to check the currency rate and wages minimum in that time in Czech)
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15 Jul 2015 12:50 #197936
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Push a man to a river or into a river?
No, I've never heard of such a thing in real life. Only stories. It has kind of a Paulo Coehlo feel to it.
Are they hiring?
No, I've never heard of such a thing in real life. Only stories. It has kind of a Paulo Coehlo feel to it.
Are they hiring?
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16 Jul 2015 17:11 #198050
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Need more infoCorwinani wrote: Dragon
Does any1 know or just have an idea what Closed society or sect was he talking about?
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05 Aug 2015 12:49 #199289
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Today i received an email from registry office in Czech . It says my grandfather did not have any brother.
Now there are two possibilities.
1. His brother or Secret society destroyed all evidence about him.
2. My grandfathers story is not real, but it has completely different meaning. (this is what i believe now)
Now there are two possibilities.
1. His brother or Secret society destroyed all evidence about him.
2. My grandfathers story is not real, but it has completely different meaning. (this is what i believe now)
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05 Aug 2015 14:44 #199293
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Well, there are several aspects to what you're asking about.
1. Closed Groups
2. Independent Income from working within the groups
3. Excessively higher earnings than normal open society.
With all honesty (and complete dependance on my personal experience) all three of these things are plausible. And in several example historic cases very much true.
Closed society groups exist all over the world no matter how developed it is. The main cause of this is human nature and the desire to protect what the group and its members have and strive forward to gain more.
Often to get involved in such closed groups you have to be recognised by a member and then be invited to join, often with the candidate being completely ignorant of what it involves from the outset until many years of loyal memberships.
Receiving an independent income is a tricky concept because employment and income laws around the world often require detailed information of what they are doing to earn that income. In most European countries failure to declare this considered fraud and tax evasion by most civilised countries.
Another concept of a closed groups is that it's not recognised or regulated by any government or authority body.
Since 9/11 this would immediately set of red flags in Government if discovered.
Higher earnings would be directly linked to illegal activities by anyone in the general public, however from a legal and financial professionals viewpoint this is nothing unusual or uncommon. They often relate to closed groups with higher incomes as members of the elite, or highly empowered members of society.
This should not be associated or recognised as a criminal, terrorist, private society (illuminati) enterprise.
Anyone who has the brains to make anything grow from a tomato plant to a bank account full of cash can lead up to be member of a closed group of highly valued members.
Hollywood movies, smear campaigners, investigative journalists and historians very often jump to their own conclusions based upon regulated education and life experiences. One thing that none of the above ever have is first hand experience of what it is like to be on the inside of those closed groups from a beneficiary or founding members viewpoint.
Overall conclusion for you is that its plausible that such groups exist but they aren't plentiful, and that your grandfathers brother may or may not be a member of such group.
1. Closed Groups
2. Independent Income from working within the groups
3. Excessively higher earnings than normal open society.
With all honesty (and complete dependance on my personal experience) all three of these things are plausible. And in several example historic cases very much true.
Closed society groups exist all over the world no matter how developed it is. The main cause of this is human nature and the desire to protect what the group and its members have and strive forward to gain more.
Often to get involved in such closed groups you have to be recognised by a member and then be invited to join, often with the candidate being completely ignorant of what it involves from the outset until many years of loyal memberships.
Receiving an independent income is a tricky concept because employment and income laws around the world often require detailed information of what they are doing to earn that income. In most European countries failure to declare this considered fraud and tax evasion by most civilised countries.
Another concept of a closed groups is that it's not recognised or regulated by any government or authority body.
Since 9/11 this would immediately set of red flags in Government if discovered.
Higher earnings would be directly linked to illegal activities by anyone in the general public, however from a legal and financial professionals viewpoint this is nothing unusual or uncommon. They often relate to closed groups with higher incomes as members of the elite, or highly empowered members of society.
This should not be associated or recognised as a criminal, terrorist, private society (illuminati) enterprise.
Anyone who has the brains to make anything grow from a tomato plant to a bank account full of cash can lead up to be member of a closed group of highly valued members.
Hollywood movies, smear campaigners, investigative journalists and historians very often jump to their own conclusions based upon regulated education and life experiences. One thing that none of the above ever have is first hand experience of what it is like to be on the inside of those closed groups from a beneficiary or founding members viewpoint.
Overall conclusion for you is that its plausible that such groups exist but they aren't plentiful, and that your grandfathers brother may or may not be a member of such group.
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