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I have wondered about this as well. I find it quite mind blowing. A moment or feeling almost everyone has experienced and yet no scientific proof of it's existance. So it must not exist. LOL and yet tere we stand in a moment of Awe wondering how it happens. Maybe it is just a glitch in the matrix.

Json wrote: I have wondered about this as well. I find it quite mind blowing. A moment or feeling almost everyone has experienced and yet no scientific proof of it's existance. So it must not exist.

Excuse me, what are you talking about? Why are you saying this? You're hurting my brain.

I mean, this is wrong on so many levels! First, you seem to imply that science doesn't know the phenomenon occurs. Second, you are constructing a straw man by which it seems you think somebody finds that it therefore should follow that deja vus don't exist. Third, you are implying that science has no idea what deja vus are, and yet it does, and a pretty good one, too (have you even read the thread you're posting on? I know Akkarin isn't much of an authority on neurobiology, but, you know... there's this google thing...). Fourth, you are speaking of "scientific proof" as if that was an actual thing. I know I'm on the internet, but this is like... multi-layered wrongness all over the place. It's like... wrongception or so... I don't even have a word for this. What's going on?!

This happens to me all the time, but I've learned to sort of utilize it to some degree.

By that I mean that whenever I catch myself in a moment of deja vu, I try to let go of everything else in my mind but the moment. Sometimes I am able to draw more information from the moment. It's hard to explain, but it's like reverse clairvoyance. Instead of seeing the future, you are seeing a past memory of seeing the future, which is taking place now. I'm sure Gisteron knows where I'm about to go with this, but I believe it to be a psychic phenomenon, not the deja vu itself, but the act of searching the deja vu for more than just that moment. Very hard to explain properly.

On a related note, I have, without a doubt in my mind, had premonitions via dream. The few times I have ever smoked marijuana, I always get a deja vu feeling right before I get sick (hence, the FEW times). After I come back to a normal state, I look into everything that happened more before realizing that the dream from anywhere between three weeks to three months before played out almost, if not exactly the same way. And I know for a fact that I wasn't just imagining the dreams because I've recorded them the day after a few times and had something solid to compare the experiences to. This was done only after I realized the events played out the same way the dreams did, and the dreams were too far away and too specific to have been repeated by hallucination, and I hadn't told anyone else about them so I know it wasn't any of my friends messing with me.

It is all very interesting.

That's really something, Par You must have a true talent.

This may derail the thread, but a long time ago one of my students (against my better judgement) wanted to experiment with psychodelic mushrooms. He quoted a story that someone supposedly told about a profoundly spiritual experience. I've read some other similar stories. I don't really have a point to telling you this, except that it connects with Par's post. By the way, I DO NOT condone the use of drugs. As I told my apprentice, you can achieve those spiritual experiences without drugs.

Anyway, deja vu seems to be a kind of paradox, like a memory and a premonition at the same time. Fascinating stuff

Streen wrote: Deja vu fascinates me. When it happens to me, it is the uncanny and absolute reality that the experience I'm having has happened before. No doubt. Not just similar. Exact.

I'm posting this because I had deja vu just a little while ago. But while it was happening, I remembered something that a friend told me. Deja vu, according to him, doesn't necessarily mean you're seeing into the past, but rather the future. It's a bit mind-blowing to me, because the implication is that the reason you're having deja vu is because, at some point in the past, you saw the present.

Generally I think time is an illusion, and so everything I've said might be irrelevant. Still, it's a cool experience

Happens all the time, just isn't predictable or reliable, but is fascinating.

It ranks right up there with intuitive: flashes, thoughts and images. To a certain degree I've come to rely on them though.

I actually had a freakout dejavu moment last night, in a car being towed , as I was talking about what was going on (battery failing) with the guy sitting next to me... I know we've never been in that situation before, or had that conversation before, but also was convinced that it had happened in another instance, almost as if it happened twice, but at the same time

Ren, that's exactly what happens to me. I'll play vulcan here and ask the obvious question: isn't it logical that if we are all having the experience that we've done these things before, that in fact we have?

Not just a similar action in THIS life, but rather in a past one. Perhaps even this same life in a different dimension, universe, or whatever.

Streen wrote: Ren, that's exactly what happens to me. I'll play vulcan here and ask the obvious question: isn't it logical that if we are all having the experience that we've done these things before, that in fact we have?

Not just a similar action in THIS life, but rather in a past one. Perhaps even this same life in a different dimension, universe, or whatever.

That's another one of my theories. We know that alternate dimensions exist as proven by the Schrödinger's Cat theory in the sense that at every point in time when multiple possibilities are presented as choice or outcome, the universe branches off so every possibility exists in separate dimensions at the same time. My theory relating to this is that our lives are constantly restarted every time we die. That way we can live the same life over and over until we explore all possibilities, however our memories are reset on rebirth. Sometimes fragments get left behind, thus creating deja vu. This is only one theory I have.

Another is that our soul/spirit/mind sometimes picks up the "signal" of the alternate dimensions sometimes, so you feel like you've done something or been in a situation before because you actually are in an alternate dimension.