On Balance / Regression To The Mean

It must be me? I'm finding this discussion on balance way to complicated and intellectual. What am I missing?

Do you mean that you find the conversation unbalanced? :blink:

Time to inject some insanity and with it balance :evil:

Balance is not falling off the left side of the wall, it's not falling off the right side of the wall, it's falling squarely on your nuts and faceplanting on the wall :woohoo:

Aqua wrote: I think balance is the result of enlightenment and that enlightenment is a product of self awareness, self awareness we gain by understanding our personal lessons, our personal lessons we learn by sacrifice our own needs, what brings me back to balance..
To find balance we need to understand that we need to sacrifice our own needs, if we understand why we sacrifice our own needs we have learned a lesson, those lessons learn us self awareness that brings enlightenment that gives us balance..

I like how you pieced that together.

Aqua wrote:
It would mean that the force is not only the binding and unknown part of our world, it would also represent the balance between duality and endless processes.. We could philosophize that the balance between duality and endless processes are an unilateral process that we could refer as time in a linear direction.
Due to the fact that everyone has different understanding we have multiple ways of understanding the circle, could this mean that we have multiple linear lines of directions? Multiple balances and multiple dimensions?

Quite possibly so...

Targeran Arynal wrote: . Balance may be seen as restriction but true balance restricts restriction as much as it restricts anything else. It is the never-ending round of duality and the mutual arising of opposites. Balance is not neutrality, light and dark remain; balance is the fruit of the living Force.

Targeran Arynal wrote: The concept of balance is not itself balance; balance is the experience of the entirety of your being, those parts known and those unknown to your consciousness. You are experiencing it all the time but you can only know it by being in touch with your experiences in a holistic way, remembering that the whole of your experience is greater than the sum of its parts. It is an emergent property that arises as a term unto itself, and in this way balance does arise from and ultimately turn back to its own limitation, which is the limitation of having no limitation at all.

I like your analysis. I just want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, that balance (and perhaps the Balanced Life) is to live unrestricted and without limitations. Essentially, boundless in our experiences. Yes/No?

Goken wrote: There are even different balances for one person, such as mental balance, spiritual balance, physical balance, etc.

Would one need to account for all types of "balance" to be wholly/fully balanced? Said another way, would a balanced life require all facets of balance be satisfied and each one balanced in and of themselves - if one aspect is un-balanced then so is the whole?

Goken wrote: For me I always think back to my martial arts training. My instructor always used the phrase "all other things being equal, .... All other things means height, weight, reach, speed, power, timing, training, mindset, etc. My instructor emphasized being well rounded in training so that any of these things could be your edge, not just one.

Thank you for contributing and incorporating your martial arts teachings. So are we looking at balance as being multifaceted? Containing many angles....and variables to consider?

Rickie The Grey wrote: It must be me? I'm finding this discussion on balance way to complicated and intellectual. What am I missing?

You're not missing anything! Here's a short summation of some of the main points that have been contributed so far by the others. Feel free to dive in - I'm sure you can add something that we could all relate to and find value in.

Balance (Inner balance, regression to the mean, The Balanced Life) has a greater depth and complexity than we all initially thought.

As we shift from extreme to extreme in our life and pass through/return to balance (ref. pendulum analogy or sliding scale concept), it requires that we fully accept the un-balanced moments for what they are. Difficult as this may be, but necessary all the same.

Based on some of responses so far, It is not so much a destination, nor is it the "mid-way". Rather it is, The Way. Something that is all encompassing and multifaceted with many moving parts.

Just a final thought
Perhaps the key to Inner Balance and leading The Balanced Life is to embrace and accept the many un-balanced moments experienced throughout our lifetime. To live unrestricted and without limitations. Essentially, boundless. To be at peace with each and every experience responsible for shaping our lives.

Acheron wrote: Just a final thought
Perhaps the key to Inner Balance and leading The Balanced Life is to embrace and accept the many un-balanced moments experienced throughout our lifetime. To live unrestricted and without limitations. Essentially, boundless. To be at peace with each and every experience responsible for shaping our lives.

A wonderfully true statement. I, myself, have thought back on mistakes that wondered if I'd change them only to realize that if I hadn't made those mistakes I wouldn't be who I am, where I am, and I very much like who and where I am right now.

We have 3 selves, the physical self, the mental self, and the spiritual self...if any one of those 3 is out of balance the whole self is out of balance..

For the physical self to be balanced use diet and exercise
For the mental self to be balanced exercise knowledge and reason
For the spiritual self to be balanced apply wisdom and focus

To balance the whole meditate...

RyuJin wrote: We have 3 selves, the physical self, the mental self, and the spiritual self...if any one of those 3 is out of balance the whole self is out of balance..

For the physical self to be balanced use diet and exercise
For the mental self to be balanced exercise knowledge and reason
For the spiritual self to be balanced apply wisdom and focus

To balance the whole meditate...

How to split the mental from the spiritual?

I really just try to live as stress free as possible. (A noble but impossible goal.) When I'm stressed or are stressing people/beings around me I'm off balance. I know thats sounds simple but simple helps me stay balance. Unecessary complexity leads to tangents and knocks me off kilter. Thinking too much can do that as well. Sometimes I just have to be and balance comes back. Doesn't stays the same for long though so I just try to go with it the best I can.

This may not be what your looking for or fit in with this discussion but it was in my mind and I let it out.

Acheron wrote:

Targeran Arynal wrote: . Balance may be seen as restriction but true balance restricts restriction as much as it restricts anything else. It is the never-ending round of duality and the mutual arising of opposites. Balance is not neutrality, light and dark remain; balance is the fruit of the living Force.

Targeran Arynal wrote: The concept of balance is not itself balance; balance is the experience of the entirety of your being, those parts known and those unknown to your consciousness. You are experiencing it all the time but you can only know it by being in touch with your experiences in a holistic way, remembering that the whole of your experience is greater than the sum of its parts. It is an emergent property that arises as a term unto itself, and in this way balance does arise from and ultimately turn back to its own limitation, which is the limitation of having no limitation at all.

I like your analysis. I just want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, that balance (and perhaps the Balanced Life) is to live unrestricted and without limitations. Essentially, boundless in our experiences. Yes/No?

Yes, we should not restrict that which is trying to move us into balance. Because only an unrestricted life can be moved into balance and kept there; else we could not move back into balance when we are thrown out of it. An interesting idea that follows from this is the consideration that the balance in our lives needs to be balanced out with unbalance. It starts to sound like sophistry if you only pay attention to the words, but I think it makes sense when we let the Force move freely through us so we can recognize the reconciliation it brings as it balances the opposites in our life. We must allow it to flow unrestricted and unopposed to achieve the highest level of balance that we are capable of finding.