Death row inmate goes free
17 Jun 2013 16:05 #109712
by ren
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She stabbed a 78 year old person 33 times when she was only 15.
Not sure I want her out and about.
Not sure I want her out and about.
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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17 Jun 2013 16:27 #109714
by rugadd
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I don't have a problem with locking people up who are a clear source of mayham on the general populace. I argue that it should be done out of compassion.
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17 Jun 2013 17:16 #109721
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I'd say there is a lot to be said about the grandson. That's a pretty big step to be able to forgive another for such a crime. Kudos to him for focusing on how his grandmother lived.
And 27 years is a very long time, she could be a completely different person now. Though, I'm sure people will be keeping an eye on her. You don't just forget a murder like that, and most people's trust isn't given so easily. I hope that she found a more balanced state...instead of maybe refining her skills of manipulation. How many conmen does prison create?
We really should rethink how we operate our prisons. I know that in the US, it's purely a money making business. Get as many in as possible. Though, I do know there are some work camps. Those seem like a better idea. Giving an individual a worthwhile task to accomplish and access to learning a trade instead of keeping them locked in a little room.
And 27 years is a very long time, she could be a completely different person now. Though, I'm sure people will be keeping an eye on her. You don't just forget a murder like that, and most people's trust isn't given so easily. I hope that she found a more balanced state...instead of maybe refining her skills of manipulation. How many conmen does prison create?
We really should rethink how we operate our prisons. I know that in the US, it's purely a money making business. Get as many in as possible. Though, I do know there are some work camps. Those seem like a better idea. Giving an individual a worthwhile task to accomplish and access to learning a trade instead of keeping them locked in a little room.
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17 Jun 2013 17:42 - 17 Jun 2013 17:46 #109723
by ren
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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They say that the accent we had as children stays with us our entire lives, no matter how much we learn or change. Because the brain has actually grown "that certain way".
Similarly I don't think anyone who was capable of stabbing someone 33 times at 15 years of age is ever capable of coming back from that. Stabbing someone once (or twice) to me is a very different deal from stabbing them 33 times.
http://youtu.be/_pyqqFpGBxk?t=50s
Similarly I don't think anyone who was capable of stabbing someone 33 times at 15 years of age is ever capable of coming back from that. Stabbing someone once (or twice) to me is a very different deal from stabbing them 33 times.
http://youtu.be/_pyqqFpGBxk?t=50s
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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17 Jun 2013 19:32 - 17 Jun 2013 19:34 #109732
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That's true. 33 times is insane.
But I just look at the people I knew in high school and a lot of the rowdier ones (though they never murdered anyone) are very different now. It's not unheard of for an inmate to change their ways. Some (though definitely not the majority) become very beneficial to society.
Then again...
I guess we'll find out in time.
(Funny about the accent thing. My mom doesn't sound very Southern, but when she gets around her family it definitely comes back out.)
But I just look at the people I knew in high school and a lot of the rowdier ones (though they never murdered anyone) are very different now. It's not unheard of for an inmate to change their ways. Some (though definitely not the majority) become very beneficial to society.
Then again...
I guess we'll find out in time.
(Funny about the accent thing. My mom doesn't sound very Southern, but when she gets around her family it definitely comes back out.)
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18 Jun 2013 04:25 #109759
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Wendaline, that's why minors are often not charged as adults for smaller crimes. They're rowdy and young, but they're likely to change their ways. Stabbing someone 33 times does tend to push you over the limit of what can be forgiven though. It's a bit different than stealing some clothes for kicks.
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18 Jun 2013 04:32 #109761
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I never said her crime was acceptable. In fact it's awful. I'm just saying it's not impossible that this woman has changed her ways.
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18 Jun 2013 12:21 #109786
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I wasn't intending to imply that you said her crime was acceptable. I apologize if my statement came across this way. I was merely suggesting that maybe the people who are just a little rowdy when they are younger tend to commit smaller crimes and often do not serve very long sentences.
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