The Force and the Ultimate Deity

In my travels it has occurred to me that the Force of the Jedi has strong parallels with the most universal notions of God. There are four key concepts which underlie the basic understandings of God (in the most supreme sense). these are usually known as the 4 tenets of God. They are; Omnipresence, Omniscience, Omnibenevolence and thereby Omnipotence. It is interesting is it not that the definitions of the Force fit quite tightly with this perspective? Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Jainism, and practically every indigenous culture all have universally developed practically the same set of root assumptions about the most rudimental nature of the Source of All That Which Is.

Any thoughts/ideas?

You're not even wrong.

Where did you travel?

Of your four concepts, the only one as I see it that could likely be attributed the Force is omnipresence.

The Force is not only disinterested, it is incapable of interest, it simply is. It's just not Odin in a new suit.

The Force is not even necessarily the source of all things, it is all things.

You can not please the force. It does not test us, it does not ask anything of you, it promises, and delivers, nothing.
Some here may not agree with me, I'm sure there are plenty that don their organic linen fisherman pants and meditate to the sunrise hoping the Force will bless them with wisdom for the day.

It might have some similarities with some Jainism concepts.

HOWEVER, I have two far more fascinating thoughts.

1. God is Dog spelled backwards.
2. Everyone with a pulse seems qualified to add garbage to the internet.

There are plenty of references to the sentience of the force. How many times is the term "will of the force" used in the Star Wars drama? suggesting not only an awareness but also an agenda or purpose in "mind".


Where do you get the ideas of "pleasing" or being "tested" by anything? Neither were suggested, even through implication.

As to it delivering nothing, I beg to differ but can agree to disagree.

And to point 2 of your epiphany...we live in a house of mirrors my friend.

There are plenty of references to the sentience of the force. How many times is the term "will of the force" used in the Star Wars drama? suggesting not only an awareness but also an agenda or purpose in "mind".


Where do you get the ideas of "pleasing" or being "tested" by anything? Neither were suggested, even through implication.

As to it delivering nothing, I beg to differ but can agree to disagree.

And to point 2 of your epiphany...we live in a house of mirrors my friend.

I daresay it's a misunderstanding to think of the force's "will" as being similar to any sentient being, even if that is the word used in whatever reference you choose.
As far as I know (and i don't know much) the abrahamic faiths have to prove their allegiance to their all-power.
The force will be no different whether you sacrifice a puppy or name your firstborn after it.

Perhaps deliver was the wrong word, the force is everything, it does not choose to gift or withhold particular components of everything.

If you're trying to be clever in telling me I am no more qualified than anyone else in contributing garbage - what do you want? a gold star for banter?

My reference to Judaism is mainly Kabbalistic. All the mentioned faiths have very common ground in their mystical aspects. Judaism is no exception.

As to the sacrificing business, I am not proposing any such thing, nor does the Kabbalah.

I am not suggesting the Forces sentience is like anything we can know.

Perhaps there are certain sacrifices we can make that allow us to be better aligned with the Force. Isn't that the point of training?

Thanks for your input. Have a great day.

I'll have to take your word for it on the judaism,

I wasn't really promoting sacrifice, I was trying to say you can't annoy the force, not even with punting a puppy into a turbofan.

But, for another angle of the word sacrifice, I suppose you might be right - imagine what you could sacrifice of yourself to be better?

What would you be willing to give up?

I hope the answer is time, because anything else seems more like trying to make a deal than a sacrifice.

Sacrifice your life in service to the force, and die never knowing if it made a difference.