Wisdom and Folly, and knowing Which We Do

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4 years 11 months ago #337413 by
"The Wise man speaks because he has something to say; The Fool, because he has to say something"

Paraphrasing Plato, there.

It feels very in line with our latest sermon.

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4 years 11 months ago #337416 by
Wisdom cant be imparted, only experienced, so I say the words of the wise man fall on deaf ears but if you act the fool then do it with enthusiasm!

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4 years 11 months ago #337417 by ren
Wisdom is what you experience when you look at yourself and realise you are a fool.

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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4 years 11 months ago #337418 by

ren wrote: Wisdom is what you experience when you look at yourself and realise you are a fool.


Plato would approve, and wholeheartedly agree.

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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #337423 by Proteus

V-Tog wrote: How much less tiring must it be to admit from the start that we aren’t omniscient? How much more productive for both our own journey and those of others if we can find it in ourselves be vulnerable and open enough to say – not “I am going to teach you this” – but “let’s explore this together?” How much more respect and co-operation arises when instead of decreeing “I know what’s best for you” we ask “what do you need and how can I help"?


I'm not very interested these days in philosophical nature of wisdom. It's a bit useless to me at the end of the day. In agreement of what V-Tog has said in the sermon here, perhaps its more important to ponder on the practical point of what wisdom constructively affects toward the people we're involved in; the way we interact with others and how we contribute to their lives on their level.

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4 years 10 months ago - 4 years 10 months ago #337612 by Streen
"Those who know, do not speak; those who speak do not know." —Lao Tzu

"Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues." —Proverbs 17:28

"There is a fine line between insight and insanity." —Me

The truth is always greater than the words we use to describe it.
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4 years 10 months ago #337630 by Kobos
I don't drink water because I like the taste, I drink it because if I don't I die.............


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4 years 10 months ago #337647 by Adder
Sounds like its about freedom and courage over indecisiveness and fear. The 'wise' person being closer to their true selves in a more full and representative expression of themselves, while the fool is stuck in some artifice feigning actual identity by reinforcing a facade to others and themselves over and over.

Leading to maybe, because of this, the wise person talking about how things seem to them (therefore relating and building a potential for empathy and understanding), rather then judging others... for that would be trying to remove the mask from others, as if they 'must' have a mask, for its their own greatest fear!

Anyway, that is how I see it :silly: :pinch: #witticism

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